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Date: May 8th, 2025 5:48 AM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film

Dull gray walls, no soda machines, you have to order using touch screens. If this is the future, I hate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48912744)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: zippy charismatic parlour

Anyone who doordashes McDonald’s should be punched in the face

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Date: May 8th, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film

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Date: December 6th, 2025 6:08 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 6:41 AM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 6:50 AM
Author: Apoplectic vengeful lodge cuckold

For a stretch one of my kids had sports practice across town first thing in the morning once a week, so I'd take him and drop him off and go to the McDonald's across the street and get a little bit of egg and sausage and a cup of black coffee and read a book. It was empty. It was always empty. I thought back to when I was a kid and when I'd have to push aside the small golden tin ashtrays to the edge of the table and the place was always bustling, with styrofoam cups this time and with brown floors, and how old men in gray sweaters with holes in the sleeves and gray whiskers and WWII veteran caps would lounge about for hours, scraps of paper beside them and maybe a Bible, chatting with each other. How mom would bring in two toddlers and a baby in a stroller and they'd get Happy Meals and the toddlers would race the cartoonish cars along the tabletops. How it was a social place to be present. Now, I sat alone for an hour, with my cup of coffee, sipping, reading, occasionally looking at the old man on his 6:30 am routine of mopping the now-pristine floors of the soulless postmodern remodel, how occasionally the door would open and close as someone would pop in to pick up a meal, how there was no longer any ring of a cash register, and no longer even a human being to take your order, just large glowing panels you'd silently watch and touch and touch and watch. But I came every week anyway, and I drank and I read and I remembered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48912787)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 7:51 AM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 8:04 AM
Author: Turquoise passionate kitchen digit ratio

I remember those golden tin ashtrays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48912873)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

Mom would get so mad when we wore them as hats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915755)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:13 PM
Author: Turquoise passionate kitchen digit ratio

They were embossed with the “M” in the middle iirc. Cool as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915770)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

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Date: May 8th, 2025 8:49 AM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 4:11 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 4:15 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: ultramarine adventurous market

My pet theory is that Luigi got cuaght because he was a normal looking white guy eating at a McDonalds, and the clerks were like "something aint right here"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915744)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:13 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:24 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: big multi-billionaire address

Yea well at MY McDonald's last year I saw a fat hood black bitch jump over the counter and beat some other fat black bitch working there for cheating with her boyfriend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915823)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:57 PM
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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:57 AM
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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:48 AM
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Date: May 8th, 2025 7:56 AM
Author: carmine circlehead range

My local McDonald’s had a play place that was always packed with kids but they tore it down to make room for a second drive thru lane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48912855)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Electric startling karate stage

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916565)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: Big-titted sexy forum

cr, my local McD's got an "update" and now it's like a giant walk-in vending machine. No cashier, all employees in the back, and you only interact with them through the shelf where they put your order.

I'm often the only non delivery driver there.

3 small tables in the front, the rest is just a waiting lobby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48913087)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film

I wonder if we go to the same McDonalds. Just last year it had colorful walls and cool soda fountain that had digital buttons.

Now it's all gray, huge shelves for the DoorDashers, and hardly any seating. The only other people in there were doordashers waiting for their orders. Not a single person sitting at a table eating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48914757)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual wrinkle university

I would sometimes eat in my car in the parking lot after going through the drive through. that was when I was more obese. Haven't eaten inside one of those things in a decade except once on a road trip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923864)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:03 PM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: ultramarine adventurous market

Was thinking today how we used to go to pizza hut with other families after sports tournaments, and everyone would sit down and talk and play.

My mom used to go with her friends for lunch regularly, and they would often sit down at a burger king or whatever and the kids would play or color and the middle-class to affluent moms would just sit in a burger king and eat.

Now these places are for recovering heroin addicts only.

At best normal people might go through a drive through and have the food handed to them before they go home to look at their screens.

At worst, the poeple look at their screens, go to another screen to order for someone else to go to the restaurant for them, then only stop looking at their screens for the 10 seconds to pick the order up from the porch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915763)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: exhilarant station



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

I don’t understand how proles can afford to DoorDash McDonald’s. Genuinely baffled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915764)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: metal hot marketing idea gunner

Agreed. An enormous amount of my customers are fucking morons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915784)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

Are they paying with Affirm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915794)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: metal hot marketing idea gunner

No idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915829)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: big multi-billionaire address

Gotta spend money to make money. Heh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915799)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: swollen rigor

McDonald’s has gotten so expensive it’s almost the same price as eating at Olive Gardens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915801)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:25 PM
Author: ultramarine adventurous market

I was at a burrito place and this prole kept just asking for add-ons and his burrito ended up being $36 - and he just paid it.

It's also weird because the admins in my office are always debating their favorite steakhouses, etc. Like they make $1,000 a week but once a month are droppig $500 on dinner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915803)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: Big-titted sexy forum

I don't know, everywhere I go, I see literal retarded niggaz driving Range Rovers and Audi/BMW/Porsche SUVs, not sure who is funding all this activity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916492)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

I make more money than everyone but my boss and me and like three secretaries are the only ones who bring our own lunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916600)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual wrinkle university

Poor people are poor for a reason, and 99,9% of the time it's through their own actions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923869)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: Massive hospital pocket flask

Klarna bro. Just 16 easy payments of $7.99 for your $98 order of 2 values meal and Doordash service fee. But at least you get 750 McDonald's points.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48922161)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: big multi-billionaire address

I miss that old McDonald's soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915795)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film

... just take those old burgers off the shelf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916736)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:23 PM
Author: swollen rigor

One of the few places on earth that is 100 percent enhanced by technology reducing your interactions with other “human” beings.

Do you actually miss intermixing with the felons and illegal aliens “serving” you from behind the counter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915796)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: ultramarine adventurous market

You are wrong but you're correctly diagnosig the problem.

There used to be cheerful teens behind teh counter.

Now it is all illegal aliens - so people stopped going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915832)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:40 PM
Author: big multi-billionaire address

For much of my life I thought the sleek modernist renovations were an improvement and progress. A march into the future. It would only make sense for such an important CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE to be at the vanguard of carrying us all ahead. But I didn't understand the cost. I do now and it was more than any of us could imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915838)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

The point is it didn’t used to be like this. All my friends worked fast food when I was sixteen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916602)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: swollen rigor

Are you 75? 20 years ago this was only true at In and Out IIRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916714)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: Magical milk

That's basically the median age of zozo these days man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916730)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Pearl multi-colored skinny woman

Some worked retail clothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916739)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual wrinkle university

The tuna twat whores at my high school used to work the skating/custard/burger drive in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923874)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual wrinkle university

It used to a be a blonde somewhat normal teen female though, not a nigga or gangbanger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923871)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: soul-stirring black woman corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48925225)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Poppy Laser Beams

https://media.craiyon.com/2025-05-09/gVWmvG9eQnqLxl_l1moU0w.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48915902)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 12:23 AM
Author: Territorial dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916074)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: Electric startling karate stage

Dude could be a poaster if he dropped some hair

Those kiosks are about 5-6, so that's spot on

No wedding ring, no companions

Look of confused misery on his face

We're practically brothers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48916576)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Electric startling karate stage

ReviewBrah just shit ALL OVER McDonald’s in favor of Chili’s

https://youtu.be/GvBNdmTHQSQ

9.1/10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48921932)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 8:02 AM
Author: indecent psychic

How is Chilis actually able to match/beat McDonalds on price though? Doesn't make sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923302)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: zombie-like bisexual wrinkle university

they can make profit from office drones getting 10 beers with their burgers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923878)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: indecent psychic

gen Z doesn't Drink though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923899)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Turquoise passionate kitchen digit ratio

The women drink wine/claws and in general they’re more susceptible to upselling. Anyway, one or two drunks can subsidize like 10 normie meals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48923906)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Translucent Nighttime Theatre Giraffe

The minimum wage laws championed by libs made this more of a problem. Of course if you are going to require workers make $20/hr in large markets like California, fast food will find a way to substantially automate the work. Touch screens and app ordering are a logical response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48921947)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: ultramarine adventurous market

I always think this is the logic of a dumb person.

If you raise the minimum wage from $15 to $20, then this only applies if the cost of the touch screens is exactly between $15 and $20 an hour - the odds of which are extremely low.

In practice they probably cost $1,000 to manufacture- meaning even at $10 an hour they'd replace a worker in about 1 week give that they can "work" 100 hours a week.

Machines will almost inevitably replace people once they are capable of replacing people. They will not replace people where they cannot replace people (look at self-check out going away because it doesn't work - not because it became more expensive or labor became cheaper.

The min wage has almost nothing to do with it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#48922121)



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Date: July 25th, 2025 8:12 AM
Author: soul-stirring black woman corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49130013)



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Date: July 25th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: diverse striped hyena

How fucked in the head do you need to be to “DoorDash” McDonalds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49130047)



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Date: July 25th, 2025 8:46 AM
Author: Magical milk

You've come to the right place to ask this question to a bunch of mentally stable people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49130048)



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Date: July 25th, 2025 9:13 AM
Author: soul-stirring black woman corner



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Date: July 25th, 2025 9:11 AM
Author: Rose titillating fanboi

ask Ricky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49130070)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser mother stag film



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Date: December 6th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Poppy Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49489377)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 6:12 PM
Author: sienna insanely creepy brethren

Seriously who the fuck would get McDonald’s delivered anywhere

It tastes good for like 3 minutes after purchase

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49489396)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: metal hot marketing idea gunner

Lots of people

I probably do 10x more McDonalds orders than Burger King orders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49489409)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring black woman corner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsZ1mUjnMVg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721837&forum_id=2.#49514416)