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They had the technology to make TANKS in civil war, right?
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:16 AM Author: violent drab mad-dog skullcap station Just nobody really thought of it/managed to pull it off? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614034) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:17 AM Author: garnet crawly school no. they didn't have the technology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614037) |
Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:18 AM Author: Floppy theatre legend no wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614043) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:21 AM Author: Coral theater stage not really. engines were too small/underpowered:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_internal_combustion_engine#1860-1920
a coal-fired tank would have been unwieldy as fuck. |
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Date: November 18th, 2018 10:16 PM Author: insanely creepy people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#37260847) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:23 AM Author: coiffed ebony resort Maybe something like an armored train but engines technology wasnt there for actual tanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614069) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:23 AM Author: Vivacious gunner dingle berry What about horse drawn tanks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614071) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:24 AM Author: Floppy theatre legend wtf would be the point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614073) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:24 AM Author: Vivacious gunner dingle berry Put the horses inside the tank and tie a rope from their necks to the back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614075) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:29 AM Author: Floppy theatre legend no one had developed anything but muzzle-loaded artillery yet tho. not sure what stood in the way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614102) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:35 PM Author: Impertinent round eye nursing home Lol 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25617037) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:34 PM Author: Cracking yellow institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25617298) |
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Date: November 18th, 2018 10:16 PM Author: cobalt codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#37260848) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:39 PM Author: Mahogany Sadistic Tanning Salon Load up on armor - send 12 horse carriage tanks full speed barreling into Lee's rebel breastworks / trenches / fortifications at Petersburg or Spotsylvania , send them shooting into the rebel rear causing havoc and confusion at the bloody angle in the spotsylvania wilderness...
But the first assault of the tank carriages would be filled with pure explosives to cause pre-havoc before the havoc causing. 2nd round of assault they'd think "oh shit more explosives", then the bloody angle would collapse and the rebel breastworks would be nullified, and Grant would no longer be thought of as a butcher for repeated assaults on those breastwork / rebel fortifications... |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:49 PM Author: french diverse foreskin church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262733) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:53 PM Author: ruby dysfunction bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262750) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:27 AM Author: Vivacious gunner dingle berry or use dogs as drivers: http://www.trueamericandog.com/2008/06/dog-veteran-invents-horse-drawn-tank.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614099) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:23 AM Author: Floppy theatre legend i think there were armored train engines (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614072) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:26 AM Author: coiffed ebony resort With like artillery on them ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614092) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:27 AM Author: Floppy theatre legend mortars yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614097) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 1:29 AM Author: plum tank therapy Colonel Jeremiah Butler of the 18th Tennessee regiment had drawn up elaborate plans for an armored vehicle as early as 1863, and even had a prototype under construction at a Confederate camp near Richmond. It included a rotating turret and would have been manned by a crew of three.
"This great device shall mean victory for our Confederacy, ensuring that this struggle shall not have been in vain," he wrote in his diary. "Imagine Grant's surprise when he faces not only soldiers, but also our mighty iron wagons," he added.
General Robert E. Lee dismissed Butler's proposal for an armored force and ordered that all construction cease immediately. Butler was killed in battle at Peakesville in 1865.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_vehicles_of_the_Civil_War |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:11 AM Author: sexy cerise voyeur odd flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614895) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:13 AM Author: violent drab mad-dog skullcap station jfc you just owned so many people it's scary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614901) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:16 AM Author: Mind-boggling ticket booth prole Robert E Lee is DONE HERE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614908) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:21 AM Author: pale cruel-hearted range I believe that good Mr. Butler was done there first (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25614914) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 2:46 PM Author: plum tank therapy He was overrated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25616790) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 5:06 AM Author: chartreuse effete school cafeteria "mighty iron wagons"
this authenticated it for me |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:51 PM Author: Flesh Razzle Ape *applauds*
180, sir. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 4:01 PM Author: Dark Arousing Reading Party Mexican fuck. didn't notice this was an evan39 post until too late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25617155) |
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Date: November 18th, 2018 10:08 PM Author: glittery garrison shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#37260760) |
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Date: November 18th, 2018 10:17 PM Author: insanely creepy people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#37260855) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:34 PM Author: narrow-minded aphrodisiac national rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262033) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:53 PM Author: adulterous menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262747) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 5:49 PM Author: Concupiscible well-lubricated indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262969) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:34 PM Author: White sanctuary quadroon There wasn't a need for tanks in the Civil War since there weren't any machine guns, other than a few gattlings. Tanks were developed as a counter to machine guns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25617034) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:35 PM Author: crystalline travel guidebook tbf, more like they hadn't yet realized the need and machine guns coming fully into their own made it crystal clear
a tank would have been fucking huge |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:49 PM Author: White sanctuary quadroon Given the power/weight ratios achievable at the time, they would have been too slow and sitting ducks for artillery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#25617110) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:52 PM Author: crystalline travel guidebook probably not feasible but would have been very useful if they'd managed to figure a way out
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:27 PM Author: Obsidian bespoke friendly grandma field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262012) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 2:04 PM Author: Mahogany Sadistic Tanning Salon Not true - tanks were developed as a counter to fortified defensive lines , i.e. trench warfare and the elaborate, miles long in depth systems that developed in the great war.
This kind of warfare already began to take hold in Petersburg, spotsylvania wilderness (the bloody angle), cold harbor etc, where Grant was labeled a butcher for repeatedly ordering attacks against Confederate breastworks , trenches, and defensive lines. The lack of ability (or willingness to accept the cost of) to attack these Confederate lines head on was a major problem, and what tied Grant down in the summer of '64 where he nearly ruined the army of the potomac which had become a revolving door for newly arrived immigrants to the u.s. to join and die in his army.
Sherman took a bunch of midwestern bros, farmers who liked camping out and such, to take atlanta / fight Johnston in huge flanking maneuvers , while grant was tied up with that mess.
One advantage the confederates had was in war aims - if they could just defend their lines they'd win. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2014 3:52 PM Author: Flesh Razzle Ape Where would the CSA found the necessary material or fuel for tanks?
They were desperate just for clothing. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2019 5:05 PM Author: Aromatic international law enforcement agency roast beef if they had taken the logical step and entered battle FULLY NUDE the war would have ended quite differently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#38273299) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 2:08 PM Author: Mahogany Sadistic Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262142) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2019 5:07 PM Author: chrome fragrant knife yarmulke It wasn't the engines that were a problem, it was the engineering of the drivetrain/tracks.
The first tanks would literally run off of their tracks if they approached jogging speed. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:28 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Love Of Her Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_fort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262017) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:57 PM Author: Mahogany Sadistic Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262118) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 2:19 PM Author: Cheese-eating Locus Windowlicker the south was about to build steam powered blimps and win the war, but it was too late (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262176) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:08 PM Author: erotic dopamine The first working submarine was in the 1600s so I gotta think a tank was feasible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262577) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:28 PM Author: wild slate kitty spot It would be possible, perhaps with only frontal armor and only against rifle shot, but one of these with some plate on the front could have been the first “tank”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_engine |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 4:31 PM Author: Flesh Razzle Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40262677) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2020 9:28 PM Author: vibrant autistic step-uncle's house South was too reliant on armored elephants to see the advantage of tanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2574412&forum_id=2#40263756) |