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how would you explain American identity politics to a fob Asian

ie someone like Kamala Harris being VPOTUS lol the closest...
fuchsia weed whacker milk
  02/02/22
Say that it's like when all the commies hated all the people...
spruce newt masturbator
  02/02/22
>> In the West, though, by 1945, when peace and order ...
Excitant casino
  02/02/22
fobs seem to adapt to it pretty easily. some of the most vi...
Mentally impaired exciting spot
  02/02/22
not talking about Indians lol
fuchsia weed whacker milk
  02/02/22
cr they come from such collectivist societies that it doe...
Doobsian Canary School
  02/02/22
they don't ask questions about the structure of ideology. '...
Mentally impaired exciting spot
  02/02/22


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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:03 PM
Author: fuchsia weed whacker milk

ie someone like Kamala Harris being VPOTUS lol

the closest thing I can think of besides someone familiar w Malaysia etc is nepotism and corruption which are rampant in Asian politics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895605)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:05 PM
Author: spruce newt masturbator

Say that it's like when all the commies hated all the people with money in 1950s China -- except it's non-whites hating whites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895618)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:08 PM
Author: Excitant casino

>> In the West, though, by 1945, when peace and order was enforced by the United States, the economy had improved to the point where class-struggle just didn't work as a generator of loyalty. Life was good, the proletariat could all afford a car and even vacations. Traditional society was dead, the old status-ladders based on family pedigree and land-based wealth were also dead. The West in 1960 was a wealthy, industrial meritocratic society, where status was based on one's talent, productivity and natural ability to schmooze oneself into the ruling class.

Of course liberal politics kept being a mess. No cohesion in a ruling class which has no good incentive to stick to each other. But of course the incentive is still out there. A cohesive ruling class can monopolize power and extract rents from the whole society forever. The ghost of Lenin is always there. And so the arrow of history kept bending in Lenin's direction. The West started to build up a Leninist power structure. Not overtly, not as a conscious plan. It just worked that way because the incentives were out there for everyone to see, and so slowly we got it. Biological Leninism. That's the nature of the Cathedral.

If you live in a free society, and your status is determined by your natural performance; then it follows that to build a cohesive Leninist ruling class you need to recruit those who have natural low-status. In any society, men have higher performance than women. They are stronger, they work harder, they have a higher variance, which means a fatter right tail in all traits (more geniuses); and they have the incentive to perform what the natural mating market provides. That's the patriarchy for you. Now I don't want to overstress the biology part here. It's not the fact that all men are better workers than women. In a patriarchy there's plenty of unearned status for men. But that's how it works: the core of society is the natural performance of men; those men will naturally build a society which benefits them as men; some men free-ride on that, some women get a bad deal. Lots of structural inertia there. But the core is real.

To get to the point: in 1960 we had a white men patriarchy. That was perfectly natural. Every society with a substantial proportion of white men will end up being ruled by a cabal of white men. Much of its biology; part of it is also social capital, good cultural practices accumulated since the 15th century. White men just run stuff better. They are natural high-status. But again, nature makes for messy politics. There is no social value on acknowledging truth: everybody can see that. The signaling value is in lies. In the unnatural. As Moldbug put it:

“in many ways nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth. Anyone can believe in the truth. To believe in nonsense is an unforgeable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.”

Or as the Chinese put it, point deer, make horse.

The point again is, that you can't run a tight, cohesive ruling class with white men. They don't need to be loyal. They'll do ok anyway. A much easier way to run an obedient, loyal party is to recruit everyone else. Women. Blacks. Gays. Muslims. Transexuals. Pedophiles. Those people may be very high performers individually, but in a natural society ruled by its core of high performers, i.e. a white patriarchy, they wouldn't have very high status. So if you promise them high status for being loyal to you; you bet they're gonna join your team. They have much to gain, little to lose. The Coalition of the Fringes, Sailer calls it. It's worse than that really. It's the coalition of everyone who would lose status the better society were run. It's the coalition of the bad. Literal Kakistocracy.

There's a reason why there's so many evil fat women in government. Where else would they be if government didn't want them? They have nothing going on for them, except their membership in the Democratic party machine. The party gives them all they have, the same way the Communist party had given everything to that average peasant kid who became a middling bureaucrat in Moscow. And don't even get me started with hostile Muslims or Transexuals. Those people used to be expelled or taken into asylums, pre-1960. Which is why American Progressivism likes them so much. The little these people have depends completely on the Left's patronage. There's a devil's bargain there: the more naturally repulsive someone else, the more valuable it is as a party member, as its loyalty will be all the stronger. This is of course what's behind Larry Auster's First Law of minority relations: the worse a group behaves, the more the Left likes it.

This is also why the Left today is the same Left that was into Soviet Communism back in the day. What they approve of today would scandalize any 1920s Leftist. Even 1950s Leftist. But it's all the same thing, following the same incentives: how to build a cohesive ruling class to monopolize state power. It used to be class struggle. Now it's gender-struggle and ethnic struggle. Ethnic struggle works in America because immigrants have no territorial power base, unlike in Russia or China. So the old game of giving status to low-status minorities works better than ever. It works even better, unlike Lenin's Russia, America has now access to every single minority on earth. Which is why the American left is busy importing as many Somalis as they can. The lowest performing minority on earth. Just perfect.

If you think it can't get worse than transexuals or pedophiles, you're really not understanding how this works. Look at this NYT article: a black woman, ex-con, convicted of murdering her own 4 year old son. She served 20 years in prison, which she spent studying sociology or something. After leaving prison, she applied to study a PhD at Harvard, which rejected her. Progressives were up in arms. How could you!

Go to the link, and look at that woman. Look at that face. She never expressed any remorse over killing her children. She lied about it in the PhD application. She disposed of the body and never told the cops where her son's corpse is! This is utter and complete psycho. Nobody in their right mind would want anything to do with this woman. But that's precisely the point. In most human societies before 1900 she would have been killed, legally or extralegally. But precisely this kind of person, someone who should in all justice be the lowest status person on earth; that's exactly the people that the Left wants on its team. You can count on her extreme loyalty to any progressive idea that the party transmits to her. And so, yes, of course, she finally got her PhD, at New York University. And unlike 97% of PhD students out there, you can bet on her getting a full tenured professorship very soon.

Yes, it's all madness, but it works. It really works like a charm. The richest parts of America, California and New York, are now a one-party state. America has legislation which forces every private enterprise of size to have a proportion of women, of black people and sexual deviants; who of course know they don't belong there, and thus are extremely faithful political commissars. More faithful than the actual official political commissars that Communist China has also in their private companies. <<

https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895630)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:12 PM
Author: Mentally impaired exciting spot

fobs seem to adapt to it pretty easily. some of the most virulent anti-white shitlibs in the US are immigrants from south asia (in particular).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895662)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:14 PM
Author: fuchsia weed whacker milk

not talking about Indians lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895672)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:16 PM
Author: Doobsian Canary School

cr

they come from such collectivist societies that it doesn't even phase them, they kind of just go "oh so that's what we're doing, ok"

indian strivers are the ones who adopt it enthusiastically. just bizarre to see them with BLM merchandise and rainbow flags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895685)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:20 PM
Author: Mentally impaired exciting spot

they don't ask questions about the structure of ideology. 'the emperor says do X' is not met with 'but why is the emperor DOING x?'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022594&forum_id=2#43895706)