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Legal Q: Why didn't Trump just pay off Stormy Daniels himself?

if the issue was evading campaign disclosure laws so nobody ...
Exciting Step-uncle's House
  04/22/24
Didn't want Melania to know
smoky quadroon
  04/22/24
no reason, Cohen was a fixer and this is how you pay a fixer...
crimson naked party of the first part
  04/22/24
somewhat right, but what was illegal was calling it legal fe...
Shaky becky
  04/23/24
Yes. The crime was failing to report it as a campaign expens...
Awkward concupiscible box office
  04/23/24
correct. and he violated NY state law by filing knowingly fa...
Shaky becky
  04/23/24
is every personal expense that might indirectly benefit one'...
At-the-ready beady-eyed mood
  04/23/24
no, that's why intent matters. was he paying off the whore t...
Shaky becky
  04/23/24
What if he gets a haircut with specific intent to influence ...
At-the-ready beady-eyed mood
  04/23/24
I bet he even bought a new suit, intending to impress debate...
crimson naked party of the first part
  04/23/24
Jesus, a campaign donation
Wonderful spruce love of her life
  04/23/24
Successful independent people view it all as "their mon...
fragrant learning disabled elastic band
  04/22/24
Cohen is on tape saying Trump never asked him to do it
Violent gas station new version
  04/23/24
dumb q
Nubile magenta immigrant dragon
  04/23/24


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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:09 PM
Author: Exciting Step-uncle's House

if the issue was evading campaign disclosure laws so nobody would know about the Stormy connection, why go through Michael Cohen at all? Why not just pay her off personally? What was the legal rationale for the way they did this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603306)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:16 PM
Author: smoky quadroon

Didn't want Melania to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603319)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:18 PM
Author: crimson naked party of the first part

no reason, Cohen was a fixer and this is how you pay a fixer, he goes out and gets your shit done then you pay what you owe, it was simply Trump's longstanding (and entirely legal) practice for these types of things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603321)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 4:39 AM
Author: Shaky becky

somewhat right, but what was illegal was calling it legal fees as opposed to a campaign donation. even if it's your own money, you have to report it as a self-contribution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603629)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 4:54 AM
Author: Awkward concupiscible box office

Yes. The crime was failing to report it as a campaign expense/donation. The reality is that Trump 100 percent must have known that there were potential campaign disclosure requirements when choosing to pay some whore to keep her mouth shut during the middle of a campaign. But disclosing it would defeat the whole point of the payment. And he probably thought at most there was some fine or slap on the wrist, not actual jail time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603642)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 4:55 AM
Author: Shaky becky

correct. and he violated NY state law by filing knowingly false business records and taxes in furtherance / to cover up the campaign expense crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:02 AM
Author: At-the-ready beady-eyed mood

is every personal expense that might indirectly benefit one's political campaign a "contribution"? Does a candidate have to report a haircut because not looking like a slob "influences" voters? If he has a kid to appeal to family values voters, are expenses associated with the kid contributions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603653)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:31 AM
Author: Shaky becky

no, that's why intent matters. was he paying off the whore to avoid wife finding out or was he paying off whore to influence election?

that's what the trial will hinge on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603657)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 2:05 PM
Author: At-the-ready beady-eyed mood

What if he gets a haircut with specific intent to influence the election and would have preferred to go unkempt but for the election?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47604495)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 3:39 PM
Author: crimson naked party of the first part

I bet he even bought a new suit, intending to impress debate audiences, and he may have even paid for it with *gasp* his own money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47604732)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 6:44 AM
Author: Wonderful spruce love of her life

Jesus, a campaign donation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603674)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:42 PM
Author: fragrant learning disabled elastic band

Successful independent people view it all as "their money," they don't think of "personal" vs "business" money in the same way that wagecucks or even public company CEOs do. Makes sense he'd think of his campaign the same way.

Edit: and they are ingrained to run every single penny of expenses thru the business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603346)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:02 AM
Author: Violent gas station new version

Cohen is on tape saying Trump never asked him to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603390)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:04 AM
Author: Nubile magenta immigrant dragon

dumb q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520595&forum_id=2#47603398)