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This interpretation of 401k match language would make DBG very proud (pic)

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cruel-hearted kitchen
  04/24/24
Smart!
Stirring Crusty Jap Corn Cake
  04/24/24
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aromatic locale wrinkle
  04/24/24
lmao
bateful henna space
  04/24/24
lmao
Outnumbered faggotry
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Soul-stirring green boistinker friendly grandma
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Obsidian stage
  04/24/24
I don't see any other interpretation
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/24/24
cr. OP is retarded for poasting this
Walnut fantasy-prone corner son of senegal
  04/24/24
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Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king
  04/25/24
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cruel-hearted kitchen
  04/24/24
With a 5 year vesting schedule
Galvanic public bath old irish cottage
  04/24/24
How much is their HR team freaking out right now? I'd thi...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/24/24
the hr team? not at all the innumerate and/or illiterate sh...
dashing property goal in life
  04/24/24
I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud. ...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/24/24
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Charismatic frozen filthpig
  04/24/24
Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual dra...
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/24/24
One weird trick.
Talking fragrant weed whacker macaca
  04/24/24
Why would you need a labor attorney? 99.9% of companies ...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/24/24
What difference does it make what industry standard terms ar...
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/24/24
it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement revie...
federal bat shit crazy point
  04/25/24
It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just impose...
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/25/24
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Hot new version
  04/24/24
How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable ...
Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king
  04/25/24
lmao
dashing property goal in life
  04/24/24
i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version ...
Submissive State Mad Cow Disease
  04/24/24
employee contribution - $79.30 the "first 6%" of ...
sienna arrogant hall pozpig
  04/24/24
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Sooty razzle-dazzle juggernaut jewess
  04/24/24
See below. Your math renders the entire formula moot. ...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/25/24
Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no lo...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/24/24
It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount...
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/25/24
Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/25/24
What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't re...
Marvelous cruise ship
  04/25/24
Because your reading of it relies on the contract being draf...
Mind-boggling home mediation
  04/25/24
and then one day, for no reason at all
odious drunken base
  04/25/24
Lmao “And be grateful you get that much!”
burgundy site tank
  04/25/24
hilarious
Clear hairraiser sandwich shrine
  04/25/24
“Enjoy!”
Ruby apoplectic market coffee pot
  04/25/24
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Charismatic frozen filthpig
  04/25/24
lol
Mischievous Liquid Oxygen Address
  04/25/24
, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.
Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king
  04/25/24
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cruel-hearted kitchen
  04/25/24
"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language ...
Cerise Alcoholic Ratface Ladyboy
  04/25/24


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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:04 PM
Author: cruel-hearted kitchen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL7ixUpW8AANjEb?format=jpg&name=large

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607905)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: Stirring Crusty Jap Corn Cake

Smart!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607907)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: aromatic locale wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607908)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:09 PM
Author: bateful henna space

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607911)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Outnumbered faggotry

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607912)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Soul-stirring green boistinker friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607913)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Obsidian stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607920)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:14 PM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

I don't see any other interpretation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607929)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: Walnut fantasy-prone corner son of senegal

cr. OP is retarded for poasting this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607970)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609654)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:15 PM
Author: cruel-hearted kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607934)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:02 PM
Author: Galvanic public bath old irish cottage

With a 5 year vesting schedule

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607978)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

How much is their HR team freaking out right now?

I'd think plausibly they facing a lawsuit where they probably owe 3% of everyone's wages for a few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607988)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: dashing property goal in life

the hr team? not at all

the innumerate and/or illiterate shitlawyer and union reps who negotiated a “match” of 3% of the first 6% for their clients, otoh…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607997)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud.

I really doubt a judge is going to go "Yeah it was totally chill for the company to mimic standard language but twist it to only pay people 1/20th what a reasonable worker would assume based on industry standards without fully disclosing the diffference."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608002)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: Charismatic frozen filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608025)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual drafting clause? If so, why would a judge do anything but look at what it says?

Do we have a labor lawyer in the house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608060)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:33 PM
Author: Talking fragrant weed whacker macaca

One weird trick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608080)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

Why would you need a labor attorney?

99.9% of companies offer something similar to a 50% match of an employees contributions up to 6% of their salary. They're clearly using an industry term and there was an error in drafting.

If this was truly their intent, and the company's attorney wasn't a full blown moron, then the next line has to say "By way of example, if an an employee makes $100,000 and contributes $6,000 to their 401k, employer will contribute $180.00 to the 401k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608108)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:09 PM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

What difference does it make what industry standard terms are? Parties aren't required to used industry standard terms. The language quoted by the Redditor is perfectly intelligible, and it doesn't provide for a match capped based on compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608170)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: federal bat shit crazy point

it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement reviewed separately by 30 different lawyers. it doesn't benefit society to have employees look out for gotcha language in 99% boilerplate 401k agreements that they sign during orientation

ski resort sneaks in "we have the right to fuck your wife at any time" in 6 font in the waiver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608252)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:34 AM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just imposed on the employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608268)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Hot new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608066)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king

How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609658)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:05 PM
Author: dashing property goal in life

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607991)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: Submissive State Mad Cow Disease

i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608200)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: sienna arrogant hall pozpig

employee contribution - $79.30

the "first 6%" of that contribution - $4.76

company matches 50% of that 6% - $2.38

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608214)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: Sooty razzle-dazzle juggernaut jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608224)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:00 AM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

See below.

Your math renders the entire formula moot.

It'd be like if you wrote a contract saying, "Buyer will be able to achieve an earnout equal to 1/2 times 1/4 divided by 6 times 11 multiplied by the 2026 revenue."

Why would you write it so stupidly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608230)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:55 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no logical reason to phrase it that they'll match 50% of the first 6% of your contributions - it's a pretty nonsensical structure. Why not just say they'll match the first 3% of the actual money you put into your account?

There's no logical reason to have the 50% of the 6% if they both refer to contributions...

It's clearly ambiguous and you look to what this phrasing means within the industry and its obvious that the intent is that they'll match 50% of your contributions up to 6% of your salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608220)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:10 AM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount contributed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608244)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608842)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:40 PM
Author: Marvelous cruise ship

What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't rendered ambiguous simply on account of there being a clearer and more succinct way to express the same meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608846)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:54 PM
Author: Mind-boggling home mediation

Because your reading of it relies on the contract being drafted with multiple fraction as a math equation, which probably 0.00001% of all contracts in history have been drafted with such stupidity, and my interpretation aligns it with probably 30-60% of all similar 401k match programs.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610189)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: odious drunken base
Subject: and then one day, for no reason at all

because good kikesmanship requires plausibly deniable deceit

normies will read that as 3% of your compensation (or 50% of your contribution), not 3% "on the first 6% of [your] contributions.", i.e., 3% of 0.06*paycheck. In other words, it's tricky wording to masquerade the order of operations. Half of 6% applied to your (((contribution))), rather than half of 6% applied to your compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608871)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: burgundy site tank

Lmao

“And be grateful you get that much!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608856)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:48 PM
Author: Clear hairraiser sandwich shrine

hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608959)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: Ruby apoplectic market coffee pot

“Enjoy!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609039)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:13 PM
Author: Charismatic frozen filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609079)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Mischievous Liquid Oxygen Address

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609055)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:39 PM
Author: Cyan factory reset button philosopher-king

, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609665)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: cruel-hearted kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610076)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Cerise Alcoholic Ratface Ladyboy

"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language that was redrafted multiple times and they fucked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610118)