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The Theory of Evolution - have they really found no 'transition' fossils?
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:10 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse That would seem like a huge fault with the theory, IF true. It's what many anti-evolutionists are saying.
And they do have a point.
Its crazy that we have all these species that are so different from one another when we should be seeing an unbroken chain of one animal that looks a little bit different from the next, all the way from small little amphibians to huge mammals.
We should be able to line the species up like in one of those picture flipbooks and watch them morph by 'flipping' through the pages really quickly.
But where are the 'missing links'?
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:11 PM Author: federal kitchen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628101) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:15 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat why do people always say this lol
the idea doesn't make sense. any fossil of any living creature is a "transition fossil" in the sense that there were species before that creature, and species after that creature. nobody is gonna find a fossil of a year 2000 human in the year 100,000 A.D. and think that it was a "transition species" between savannah apes and whatever eloi creatures come after humans. even though that is technically what we would be
think about it for like 30 seconds. this is one of the most low-IQ and silly "anti-evolution" arguments |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Vermilion filthpig lay "all fossils are transition fossils" is well said. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628116) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:28 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat this is one of those things that any person capable of abstract thought can understand, they just need to actually spend a little bit of time thinking about it
the entire attempted distinction between "micro-evolution" and "macro-evolution" is incoherent and silly and a product of dishonest people who want to justify their own religious beliefs. it's unironically just a bunch of fundamentalist christians making up pseudo-intellectual nonsense
if micro-evolution is real (and it is, it's a phenomena that's observable by an individual), then macro-evolution is also real, because it's the same phenomenon and mechanism. there's no anti-evolution argument that holds any water |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:34 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse there is actually a big debate about macro and micro if you would bother looking into it. fruit flies have been manipulated hundreds of thousands of times by scientists in order to try to create a fruit fly that can only mate with one of its kind, not the first generation of fruit flies, and scientists have been unable to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628158) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:55 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat i'm aware of the "debate." it's not actually a debate. even the computational "argument" against darwinian evolution doesn't hold any water and is reliant on making up arbitrary numerical assumptions
i know people personally who have done fruit fly breeding. it's very easy and an average person can do it and understand it
we know how evolution works. it's real and undeniable |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:24 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse im just looking for the facts. every one of your resposnes is 'oh i just know better trust me on these things i am super smart'
yet you can't show me the transition fossils without engaging in a bunch of sophistry "theyre all transition fossils!'
uh, you know what i am talking about faggot. show me the transition fossils between the species that draws a solid link from the single cell organisms down to humans.
you can't do it. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:41 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat no, it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about. all fossils are "transition fossils." you are just not actually focusing and thinking about this
close your eyes, focus, and think about this abstractly for 60 to 120 seconds. focus on nothing else. focus on these questions:
1. what would a "transition fossil" look like compared to a regular fossil?
2. what are the specific differences/characteristics that make a fossil a "transition fossil?" |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:36 PM Author: cordovan gunner house Is this spaceporn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628592) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:37 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat answer either question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628602) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:37 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse is this a joke? every single person understands what is meant by transition fossils.
more sophistry. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:38 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat nope
answer the questions |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:43 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse no faggot, you haven't answered MY questions. I literally started a thread and asked for answers and you respond with a bunch of questions. Get lost faggot.
Lol the answer is SO obvious, yet it is impossible for you to just provide an answer. Telling. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:46 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat i already answered your question: i said that *all* fossils qualify as the "missing links" you asked about in the OP. that is a direct and straightforward answer to your question
you just don't like the answer, so you ignore it, because you're some tedious middle-aged midwit who has a "worldview" that he settled on 15 years ago and you're only interested in the dopamine hits you get from having it validated
you are the gentile version of consuela |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:50 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse "i already answered your question: i said that *all* fossils qualify as the "missing links" you asked about in the OP. that is a direct and straightforward answer to your question"
LOL no. thats not an "answer" to a question. Its just sophistry as has been repeatedly pointed out to you.
Where are the fossils for the missing links? |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:54 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat every fossil is a fossil of a missing link species
every species is a missing link species
these things are true and will always be true no matter how much it frustrates you for whatever stupid low iq reason |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:49 AM Author: aphrodisiac sable national woah by putting "debatE" in quotes he's put this one to rest! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634323) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:36 PM Author: cordovan gunner house This is some 75 iq “thinking”. Holy shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628590) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:37 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628599) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:17 AM Author: wonderful jet crackhouse famous landscape painting They're not the same thing, because micro-evolved (adapted) creatures can mate and produce fertile offspring, while macro-evolved creatures (misnome) cannot
This seems more obvious to me than your conclusion that all fossils are transition fossils. There is no self evident transition phase between a billion different species |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 11:08 AM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat every living creature is in a transition phase between a billion different species coming before and after it
creatures diverging from each other will continue to mate with each other. their offspring are just less and less successful, and selection pressures favor the speciation break more and more, until they have fully diverged |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:13 PM Author: wonderful jet crackhouse famous landscape painting Not really. Offspring of more genetically divergent mates of the SAME species (ie hapas, mulattos) are more reproductively successful than offspring of more homogeneous pairs.
Offspring of mates of different species are completely infertile. There's not a spectrum of fertility that correlates with parental genetic homogeneity |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:31 PM Author: Adventurous coiffed kitty cat Huh? Your first statement is completely incorrect. I am guessing you are misunderstanding the concept of 'hybrid vigor,' which only refers to the avoidance of potential inbreeding depression that you can get by mating two organisms who are too genetically similar to each other
This is a pretty common misunderstanding, and the same "misunderstanding" that lib pseudo-intellectuals are making when they claim that "race mixing is ackshually good!" It's not, of course: race mixing in humans leads to reduced fitness, as can be easily empirically observed, because racial populations are too genetically distant from each other and therefore get dinged by outbreeding depression |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:06 AM Author: wonderful jet crackhouse famous landscape painting It's not incorrect, it's scientific fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634222) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: aphrodisiac sable national " every living creature is in a transition phase between a billion different species coming before and after it "
this is a refutation/rejection of the entire idea of speciation. under this theory we should be able to arrange all 100 trillion organisms currently living on the earth of a smooth spectrum of being. ie, every single being would be able to reproduce with the organism to the right of it, and the left of it. easy and seamless transitions at the individual level, but nevertheless on the wider spectrum you have single celled animals all the way to the left and blue whales all the way to the right
idk maybe you believe this, I don't argue points of religious doctrine, but it certainly seems off to me just on an "eyeball" basis so to speak |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:48 PM Author: Mint provocative station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628660) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:17 PM Author: Motley Deranged Parlor Nibblets They e found lots of them. Now stare at this picture of a gorilla hand and see if you can honestly still deny evolution:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3344/3331851919_a8a1429011_b.jpg
And here’s one that lost its pigment:
https://static.mothership.sg/1/2019/12/gorilla-hand-look-like-human.jpg |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:18 PM Author: talented cuckoldry set (xo2024) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628123) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:32 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse Let's see the fossils. Let's see the flip book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628156) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:39 PM Author: talented cuckoldry set "Fossils" are just a randomly captured snapshot in time. I don't see how anyone could be confused about this unless they suppose that we should be able to find a spot in the geologic strata that captured a snapshot at 1,000-year intervals in an unchanging environment over a 100M-year period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628159) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:49 PM Author: cordovan gunner house (Xo 2034) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628665) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:44 PM Author: Motley Deranged Parlor Nibblets If animals were that closely related they would just continue to interbreed. you only get specieization when they stop interbreeding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628164) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:48 PM Author: Bat shit crazy hairraiser generalized bond i find it really fucking suspicious that humans have only been around a million years, while amphibians, birds, horses, fish and other animals have been around hundreds of millions of years, yet we are the only ones that have evolved into planetary ass holes that rape and pillage all resources, and are capable of speaking and communicating with word. What the living fuck is up with that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628398) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:40 PM Author: Copper irate space main people Dolphins are currently discussing this in their undersea lairs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628617) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:38 PM Author: federal kitchen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47629885) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: canary ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634296) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:48 AM Author: aphrodisiac sable national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634318) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:37 PM Author: Spectacular Underhanded Legend Garrison why say humans have only been around for million years? we have no idea how long any of this has been going on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47629883) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:49 PM Author: Mint provocative station To be fair to OP even Darwin himself admitted that this was a weak point in his theory, although I agree with others ITT that 'every fossil is transitional' is the point. That said, I see how it comes across as a question-begging response. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628666) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:51 PM Author: khaki meetinghouse Thank you for acknowledging that Darwin himself agrees with me and that the evolutionists in this thread are question begging with their answers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47628679) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:53 PM Author: Anal comical church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47630062) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:12 AM Author: aphrodisiac sable national Acknowledging Darwin, i strive to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47630634) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 11:12 AM Author: Mint provocative station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47630964) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:35 PM Author: Bistre circlehead nowag People can't wrap their minds around the time scales involved.
The earth is 4 billion years old.
The last common human chimp ancestor lived 5-13 million years ago.
Million = 1000 millennia so if each generation was 20 years, there are 50 generations per millennia times 1000 millennia per million years times 5 millions = 250,000 generations since last common ancestor.
Seems enough generations to me for Incremental changes to separate the chimpanzees and humans. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:56 PM Author: Anal comical church It's because all fossils are technically transitional since we are seeing species that aren't around today, and can see the result of what that group (either directly or possibly a sister Taxon) became. Creationists argue against this because I assume they either haven't actually researched it and are therefore repeating stagnant information or haven't realised the gravity of humanity's findings on this topic. For instance, if you line up all our ancestors, including older remains of our own species, you can indeed see a transition from tree dweller to obligate bipedalism, as well an increase in brain size and a dental reduction. If that doesn't make a valid enough case, other sources like genetics can back up evolution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47630068) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 12:03 AM Author: lilac angry idiot Google Tasmanian Aboriginals and get back to me about there being no missing links (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47630084) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:15 PM Author: electric fiercely-loyal den Lacked sufficient population density (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47633295) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:13 AM Author: onyx histrionic selfie and negros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634251) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: Bat shit crazy hairraiser generalized bond compelling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524013&forum_id=2#47634298) |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 10:49 AM Author: onyx histrionic selfie no way this Portland City Commissioner is full Homo sapiens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Ann_Hardesty#/media/File%3AJoAnn_Hardesty.jpg |
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Date: May 4th, 2024 11:08 AM Author: Spectacular Underhanded Legend Garrison Africans and other brown races evolved from gorillas in the wild.
Whites are aliens. asians their science experiment.
this is all fact. |