Why are libs so obsessed with "high speed rail"?
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:19 PM Author: Passionate station
Cleveland Detroit Chicago Toronto
Atlanta Charlotte Nashville
Pittsburgh Philly NYC
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:31 PM Author: red friendly grandma
These are the dumbest fuckig routes I’ve ever heard.
How would you Cleveland Detroit Chicago route work? Seems like two different lines? And who gives a flying fuck about Cleveland, which had like 400k people in the metropolitan area. You’d serve more people extending NJ transit and adding some higher speed trains.
Same for Atlanta Charlotte Nashville.
And lol about Pittsburgh. Who gives a fuck they have an airport and the city is the size of Saint Paul MN (without Minneapolis). Philly already has Acela connecting it to NYC.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:20 PM Author: irradiated jap
look at this thread and the first poasts.
lamenting we can't create this shit because of bureaucracy is different. many are just against the concept itself.
to be clear, i don't think that most cons are against it as a concept, i was just playing off the title of the thread.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641952) |
Date: May 7th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: stimulating location
Oh no not an infrastructure improvement that would actually help americans!
This country spent $3 TRILLION dollars destroying iraq and afghanistan alone.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641906)
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:56 PM Author: irradiated jap
getting beat by the gooks is one thing. they are bugs and build bridges the way that a bees build a hive.
but getting beat by the french is really depressing. you know that culture we like to lampoon for being lazy and bureaucratic? well even *they* are better at building shit than we are.
we took the anglo protestant work ethic that build this country and focused it on fart apps and email jobs. tragic.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:43 PM Author: slippery messiness
sweden realized relatively high taxes/services provided and free markets aren't mutually exclusive
a lot of american politics boils down to fearmongering that the two are inseparable. if you hike taxes or want the government to subsidize healthcare you're a socialist and if you give business a longer leash you're an elite protecting reptile etc.
we used to have a two-party system but each with their own (very distinct) factions, now we just have a straight up/down two-party system where you're either on side A or side B. there's little capacity for nuance or dealmaking in american politics today
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: irradiated jap
nixon's policies would be criticized as socialism today. teddy roosevelt would be called a communist.
the partisanship has resulted in all nuance and collaboration being destroyed. people will say it out loud. libs will refuse to say anything positive about trump even if they supported some of his policies previously, and they will refuse to criticize their own politicians because that "just hurts us and helps them." MAGA gop is more willing to criticize their own party, but they are even more partisan when it comes to compromising with the left on anything.
we used to hold elections and then move forward believing that if your guy lost that meant the other guy has a mandate from the people and should move forward. the minority party would work with the other side to eek out concessions and moderate it a bit. now it's complete scorched earth. even routine appointments take ages to happen. and major legislation is only possible in emergency situations. the entire system has stalled, and any effort to return to a system that works is meant with autistic arm flapping and screeching about how the other side is evil and everything they try to do should be resisted.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:05 PM Author: Mint motley base
1800000
You would like Sweden. High trust society. It's way more vaultie than wasteland and if they have one flaw it's that they've been in the Vault for too long. But now joining NATO. They're actually building an army, cutting taxes, opening up for business. They never locked down for Covid. The only way they could become more based is if they started allowing more whites to move there. Now that would be fucking amazing.
One time I was in Stockholm harbor and this Swedish royal navy submarine was disembarking. It was cool as fuck. The commander was so fucking serious. He was drinking a beer next to me. Honestly have more pride in this country I'm not even from than my own.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: Yellow Locale
Libs often stumble upon a real problem, and because they are built to CHANGE SHIT, have sufficient open-mindedness to consider a novel fix.
Car cities suck, traffic sucks, parking lots suck. Everyone knows this, but libs are first to point it out, because theyre built to ID some problems and get really vocal right away.
Despite this being something libs are good at, theyre not particularly good at finding the right solution, or considering complicating factors, second order consequences, etc.
So they move from "traffic sucks" immediately to "build trains".
Cons often just knee-jerk oppose lib solutions because thats usually the right answer, and because it becomes partisan and polemical, often just ignore or deny the underlying problem which is real.
But in this case, libs have not considered: BLACK PEOPLE.
People dont want to take public transpo because they dont want to be around BLACKS. No one mentions this, so everyone just keeps sperging out about trains or no trains.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641990)
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: Buff razzle-dazzle menage
Libs believe anything that they're told, and the libs powers that be tell libs that high speed rail is good. Also, the lib powers that be make a shit ton of money on the graft associated with these big projects, enough that sometimes money just goes out and the project isn't even completed (like CA), yet nobody cares.
TLDR; libs feel good about repeating the party line, powerful libs steal public money.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:46 PM Author: Mint motley base
You take a train to work. You take a train back. You're not tired from driving and you've been relaxing, having a snack, and reading the paper. You get off the train and walk to your house. On your way home you pass by your local bodega stocked with fresh food and pick up what you need on the way home. It's a smaller store and you don't wait in line for an hour because instead of one gigantic H-E-B with 4000 Mexicans you're in a tiny store with only the people from that little neighborhood. Your grocer knows you personally and stocks what you like and gets to know you. May even carry some rarities just for you because he likes you.
Congratulations, you now live a normal life in Western Europe & Japan. 0 need for a car. Trains go into the city center where the nightlife is when you want to party. Trains also go to sporting events and concerts. Your parents live a few blocks down so you can see them any time. This is how virtually all 1st worlders live outside US & Canada.
U: stuck in a minivan on the 405 for 2 hours every day "this is so freeing! I can go, like, anywhere!"
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: exciting cruise ship immigrant
High speed rail is awesome. It is efficient and takes so much stress off of having to drive, find parking, etc. It will take right into the area you want to go to, so then all you have to do is get off and walk to your destination.
The problem with the US is violence. Americans are violent assholes and get worse every year. So sharing a small space with them is something that does not appealing to a lot of people.
High speed rail (both inter and intra city) works very well in many European and Asian countries because people are way more civilized there.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:54 PM Author: Nubile Macaca
It's stupid because almost all US cities require cars to get around. The focus should be on regional train and bus transit. Imagine if you could get from LAX to Disneyland in 20 minutes. Or San Jose to San Francisco in in 25 minutes. US cities are getting denser and the smart thing is to help people get around these metro ares faster. Only after regional transit improves does high speed rail make sense
Don't know what to do about sprawling shitholes like Dallas or Atlanta. They're beyond hope
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:54 PM Author: Adulterous Aquamarine Institution Dragon
It’s stupid that people see this as an East Coast only issue. There are like a dozen major cities in the Midwest that are exactly an annoying distance to drive apart ie like 125-300 miles. The biggest cities in the South are the same, as is Nashville to Louisville/St.Louis/Cincinnati. A HSR system connecting those places would massively benefit all of them with the increased flow of visitors and broader availability to workers and customers if it were easy to travel between them. Same for the I-35 corridor and the Austin-Dallas-Houston triangle, where millions of drivers also slow down trucks/cargo that’s headed to most of the rest of the country. Even a route as simple as LA to Vegas would be a massive tourism boon to both places and it’s not hard to find a route that has basically zero development between those two cities.
It’s a fact of the size and space of the country and the natural attributes of these places, all of which took shape pre-50s highway infrastructure and it’s never changing. This has always felt like another thing that requires boomers to die off/lose power to fix. Boomers invented car culture and it was fully tied up in their own self-definition and identity starting in the 50s. Boomer libs attacked real estate development and restructured the government and the legal system to make development harder because it was a much easier target than cars, and it also left a space for the elite boomers and their lawyers to enrich themselves using their de facto development monopoly. Add this to the already very long list of issues that any populist movement of the late 2020s should use to brand themselves as the “fuck boomers” party.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:50 PM Author: Mint motley base
If you get rid of homeless people and vagrants who cause disturbances then trains "aren't annoying". Have you ever been on a Japanese bullet train?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2oWELKsrA
This shit is orderly as fuck. Everyone is polite. Americans suck balls that's the problem.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:54 PM Author: irradiated jap
there are a few train lines in the us that happen to not stop in homeless/dindu areas and they are 180 experiences. people who think that "couldn't happen here" are retarded because it *does* happen here. just enforce the law ffs.
"we shouldn't build trains because they turn out to be nasty and horrible because of a handful of nasty and horrible people."
uh, just get rid of em' lol.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:10 PM Author: Mint motley base
*5000 word lengthy screed about why there's no subway stop at Georgetown*
The last one that was poasted on XO concluded the reason was either "the proximity to the river makes construction unsafe" and "time immemorial." That was one of the main reasons shitlibs who have investigated the issue actually say. "We can't put a stop here because it's always been this way."
To your point about cleaning up crime if you elected a right wing DA who pressed for charges and actually applied the law on every dindu the city would clean itself up and you wouldn't have muggings and stabbings on the DC subway. Really makes you think (((who))) is behind this?
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:41 PM Author: Mint motley base
100%
It's almost as if they're self interested and have rigged the system in their favor due to creating a massive voting block starting with Clinton that continues to this day. Obvious Boomer similarities between Trump and Biden.
Young people don't vote and haven't formed any kind of block. The boomers have been in power longer than any generation in US history. It's unheard of that their reign would go on for so long.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:36 PM Author: irradiated jap
smart enough to realize that transporting cars containing perhaps one occupant would defeat the purpose of both 1) transporting people efficiently and 2) reducing car congestion in cities.
also that spending billions on a system like this is particularly stupid considering self-driving technology will likely be finished by the time the rail network is.
it costs about $100 to take a bullet train from tokyo to kyoto. how much do you think it would cost to transport a whole fucking car? you are so god damned stupid it's unreal.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:06 PM Author: Rusted diverse school
Auto Train is an 855-mile (1,376 km) scheduled daily train service for passengers and their automobiles operated by Amtrak between Lorton, Virginia (near Washington, D.C.), and Sanford, Florida (near Orlando). Auto Train is the only motorail service in the United States.[4]
Passengers ride in coach seats or private sleeping car rooms while their vehicles are carried in enclosed automobile-carrying freight cars called autoracks. The train can carry up to 340 vehicles. The train also includes lounge cars and dining cars. Auto Train allows its passengers to avoid driving Interstate 95 in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida while bringing their own vehicles with them. It has the highest revenue of any train in Amtrak's Long Distance Service Line.
please go fuck yourself now
also, your second paragraph is correct. so why waste so much time in this thread. idiot.
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