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US General: new technology drastically favors the defense in warfare - link

The Ukraine war certainly bears this out: https://www.def...
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
in the future a 100 dollar drone is better than a million do...
arousing mauve point love of her life
  05/09/24
It's pathetic seeing how much our military is ignoring this....
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
Don't mistake GWOT shenanigans for real capacities. In a rea...
contagious theater stage coffee pot
  05/09/24
Ok, assume it's a real war with China and the Houthis are th...
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
In that scenario the houthi drones don't even take off becau...
contagious theater stage coffee pot
  05/09/24
So we have EW capabilities to do that now but we're not usin...
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
Do you know that we have 0000s of combat aircraft that we al...
contagious theater stage coffee pot
  05/09/24
I'll let you have the last word after this since this is get...
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
There is a lot of anti-drone EW It is why there are no Ha...
contagious theater stage coffee pot
  05/09/24
lol you got the tranny pumo MAF
cracking khaki international law enforcement agency kitchen
  05/09/24
yes just like in a real war there are no longer any taliban ...
Maroon Coiffed Property
  05/09/24
the spending money part is 99% of the point
Vigorous coral black woman space
  05/09/24
They've performed well in the Red Sea and in Iran's big atta...
blathering nursing home
  05/09/24
They drained our ships' SAM supplies. That's a huge accompli...
Electric Startling Meetinghouse
  05/09/24
sort of like 300 years ago when revolutionaries just sniped ...
Vigorous coral black woman space
  05/09/24
(benjamin martin)
lavender exciting brethren water buffalo
  05/09/24
Hot take incoming! Oh what a military genius! (guy from 3,00...
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yellow self-centered stead
  05/09/24
“If it’s an Army formation, their big advantage...
Slate gaming laptop brunch
  05/09/24
US Generals can't win wars. Why even bother with what they ...
cracking khaki international law enforcement agency kitchen
  05/09/24
Lol you retards are always confusing nation building with wa...
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  05/10/24
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violet curious bawdyhouse dopamine
  05/10/24
You’re both gay retarded jews
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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:40 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

The Ukraine war certainly bears this out:

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2024/05/new-tech-means-defense-outweighs-offense-says-army-futures-command-chief/396422/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648754)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:46 PM
Author: arousing mauve point love of her life

in the future a 100 dollar drone is better than a million dollar tank and a 25 cent shotgun round is probably the best defense, the world is weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648770)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

It's pathetic seeing how much our military is ignoring this. Just do spend a billion dollars - literally - in the Red Sea shooting down cheap drones. And once we run out of SAMS all our expensive F-35s parked on carrier decks will be sitting ducks for freaking Houthis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648786)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:57 PM
Author: contagious theater stage coffee pot

Don't mistake GWOT shenanigans for real capacities. In a real war there would be no "Houthis" any more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648799)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

Ok, assume it's a real war with China and the Houthis are their allies (as they likely would be if it happened today.) We want to send our carrier groups through the Red Sea. The Houthis send a shitton of drones at our ships just like they are doing now, and we are forced to use hundreds of SAMs to shoot them down, just like we are doing now.

So we exit the Red Sea and our ships no longer have nearly enough SAMs to fight the Chinese. How will the Houthis be wished out of existence in that scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648900)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: contagious theater stage coffee pot

In that scenario the houthi drones don't even take off because their shitty peninsula is blanketed in EW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648920)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:47 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

So we have EW capabilities to do that now but we're not using them because we like wasting a billion dollars on SAMs?

Why aren't we sharing this amazing technology with Ukraine? They are still having to spend SAMs on shooting down Shahed drones.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648939)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: contagious theater stage coffee pot

Do you know that we have 0000s of combat aircraft that we also aren't sharing with Ukraine, including hundreds that do EW stuff? We also have 0000s of cruise missiles, some of which also do EW stuff.

You may be surprised to learn that what was shared with Ukraine was primitive cold war surplus with the exception of a pair of Patriot systems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648973)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

I'll let you have the last word after this since this is getting a bit tiresome, but every time we have a capability that Ukraine wants they scream bloody murder for it. There has not been a peep from them about asking for anti-drone EW capability from the US because it DOES NOT EXIST. In fact, the Russians are well ahead of us on EW, and yet Ukraine still destroys most of its equipment with drones.

Now I'm sure you have a reason that you are totally convinced about as to how the US military has a secret weapon against drones that we didn't use against the Houthis and if that makes you feel better then carry on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649033)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:22 PM
Author: contagious theater stage coffee pot

There is a lot of anti-drone EW

It is why there are no Hamas drone videos out of Gaza after day 1 of the war

This report has an extensive discussion of anti-drone EW - https://static.rusi.org/403-SR-Russian-Tactics-web-final.pdf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649396)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:31 PM
Author: cracking khaki international law enforcement agency kitchen

lol you got the tranny pumo MAF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649408)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: Maroon Coiffed Property

yes just like in a real war there are no longer any taliban in afghanistan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648922)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: Vigorous coral black woman space

the spending money part is 99% of the point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648804)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:21 PM
Author: blathering nursing home

They've performed well in the Red Sea and in Iran's big attack on Israel. They definitely need a range of solutions (from cheap to sophisticated) to deal with drones. I don't think the Houthis or Iran accomplished much despite us being extremely restrained in any strikes. Missile defense gets a bad rap but it's basically saved Israel over the past 20 years and allowed most UKR cities to function relatively normal despite being bombarded by the world's second largest stockpile of missiles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648865)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:35 PM
Author: Electric Startling Meetinghouse

They drained our ships' SAM supplies. That's a huge accomplishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648904)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: Vigorous coral black woman space

sort of like 300 years ago when revolutionaries just sniped redcoats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648803)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: lavender exciting brethren water buffalo

(benjamin martin)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648907)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 6:50 PM
Author: Galvanic Hyperventilating Athletic Conference Area

Hot take incoming! Oh what a military genius! (guy from 3,000 years ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649218)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 9:00 PM
Author: yellow self-centered stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649469)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:26 PM
Author: Slate gaming laptop brunch

“If it’s an Army formation, their big advantage is going to be fires: rockets, cannons, joint fires, attack helicopters"

I like how he just casually drops in attack helicopters at the end. Apaches just blasting you forever with every kind of weapon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649403)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:30 PM
Author: cracking khaki international law enforcement agency kitchen

US Generals can't win wars. Why even bother with what they have to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649406)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: Glassy Pontificating Pozpig

Lol you retards are always confusing nation building with warfare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650512)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: violet curious bawdyhouse dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650519)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: Heady translucent boltzmann school cafeteria

You’re both gay retarded jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650532)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: Titillating outnumbered church volcanic crater

Nuclear missiles exist and this retard general is plotting out extensive conventional warfare strategies as if it hasn't all been irrelevant for 80 years other than scuffles with third world countries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649548)