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Date: September 3rd, 2014 7:45 AM Author: massive adulterous institution headpube
http://time.com/author/emma-sulkowicz
2nd para
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258567) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 7:50 AM Author: massive adulterous institution headpube
Lmfao
Ultimately they decided he wasn’t guilty. I appealed, but appeals go to the dean who basically has the autonomy to make the final decision for every case of sexual assault on campus. That’s not right. They either must find a disinterested party or they should train him because he hasn’t been trained to know to deal with survivors.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258573) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 8:39 AM Author: Razzle Doobsian Marketing Idea
I'm sure at least some do. But you dismissed out of hand her experiences, and she was directly involved. Why are you valuing the implied opinions of some of her friends over her own when they weren't even there?
I fucked a lot of girls in college. Know how many rape allegations I faced? Zero.
This guy had three. That's a pretty obvious red flag.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258652) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 9:28 AM Author: Rambunctious Cowardly Toaster Laser Beams
here are the facts, presented by his three accusers:
http://theblueandwhite.org/2014/02/11/accessible-prompt-and-equitable/
Accuser 1:
"One night at the end of August, Sara and Tom, both juniors at Columbia, were at a party. Tom was drunk; Sara was not. Tom is tall; Sara is slight. She had nearly fainted earlier that day from dehydration and wanted to take it easy. At the end of the night, they headed back to Sara’s room.
Sara said, minutes in, Tom grabbed her wrists and pinned her arms behind her head. He pushed her legs against her chest and forcefully penetrated her anus. They had never had anal sex before. They had never discussed it. It was painful. Sara began to struggle, screaming at him to stop, yelling at him to get off of her. He didn’t stop.
Afterwards, he laid next to her for a few seconds. They didn’t speak. He abruptly got out of bed, gathered his clothes, and walked out the door, leaving a handle of vodka behind him."
Accuser 2:
"Natalie and Tom started dating in 2011, three weeks into her freshman year at Columbia. They were together, on-and-off, until May of 2012.
Natalie [...]felt emotionally and sexually exploited, but was unable to identify it as abuse. She was suffering from serious depression before meeting Tom and had recently ended an emotionally abusive relationship.
She would later wonder whether Tom used her vulnerability to manipulate her. Her fragile state made their “destructive and unhealthy” physical relationship confusing at best. Tom often forcefully pinned her arms back against the mattress during sex; Natalie would cry during and after they slept together. Not until months after their break up did Natalie recognize this as non-consensual intercourse."
Accuser 3:
"Josie, BC ’13, was bartending a party in April of 2012. She went upstairs to bring down more beer to restock the bar. Tom, drunk, followed her; she hadn’t asked him to join her, but his offer to help retrieve the PBR seemed friendly enough. He came into the room behind her, shut the door, and flicked off the lights. She asked him what he was doing. He moved toward her aggressively, grabbed her arms, saying, ‘Come on,’ and tried to kiss her. She pushed him off and rushed from the room as quickly as she could.
Josie wrote it off as creepy, drunken aggression. She told some close friends how unnerved she was, but Tom left her alone after that night. “I wasn’t emotionally scarred or anything. I’m used to people grabbing my ass in bars—that’s the shitty state of the world today. Honestly, I didn’t even think it was a reportable offense covered by the misconduct policy,” she said.
But when a mutual friend of hers and Tom’s told Josie that she heard he was participating in a hearing panel related to sexual assault, something clicked. “What if I wasn’t as tall and strong as I am? What if I was really drunk? Those ideas made me very scared for other women,” she remembered thinking."
Note that Accuser 2 did not file a complaint until after she spoke with Accuser 1, and Accuser 3 did not until after hearing about the complaints filed by Accusers 1 and 2.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258747) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 9:52 AM Author: know-it-all genital piercing plaza
also the article i read said that she had consensual sex with him at least one time before the "rape"
sounds like typical 'accuse your ex of rape' breakup
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258813) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 10:00 AM Author: Black excitant wagecucks garrison
i don't know what happened. the bitch obviously didn't "feel right" after the fact, but it's possible that she could have gave up the pink but not the stink.
i think maybe a compromise in these situations is to have a lower standard where you don't actually call all this college shit "rape." i'm not talking about lower burdens of proof like now so much as an entire different category. like a DWI vs a DWAI in some states. so it's more often the case that a guy is not pawned by one wrong move.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26258828) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 11:05 AM Author: startling party of the first part sex offender
Dude seems like a turd with a penchant for preying on weak/drunk women and would benefit from some education about laws and procedures and consequences, since he's already got himself Google bombed and is on a path to much worse punishment.
These women are precisely the type who would benefit from some education about laws and procedures and consequences and evidentiary standards and self defense and situational awareness.
The guy probably sucks but under anything approaching a reasonable standard of evidence, these ladies blew it by deciding to let things slide and let do for so long. If any one of them had went to the cops immediately he'd likely have been pwned. Much more believable that you were raped when you call the cops hysterically right after. Too absurd to be able to pwn a guy with no witnesses or physical evidence after you decided to just sleep it off and go on with your life.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259049) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 11:15 AM Author: Black excitant wagecucks garrison
lets discuss her looks:
what kind SE asian mud menagerie is that BITCH? was she adopted. Sulkowicz? i would sulk if i had to look to bitches like that as fuck sluts during my college years.
i bet her pussy stank.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259089) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 11:18 AM Author: outnumbered hall
This is the second or third story where the accuser is offended that someone on the disciplinary board had the gaul to ask how the hell they had anal sex without lube. Not only is this question apropirate during such proceedings, it is probably one of the most important questions to ask every time there is an allegation of anal sex against one's will.
If he didn't use lube, she would be absolutely tore up. If he did use lube, what was she doing and saying while he was lubing up her ass?
EDIT to account for points raised below: And if she was sopping wet from the dicking he was giving her prior to fucking her ass, is it possible she went along with it at the time?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259101) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 11:43 AM Author: Black excitant wagecucks garrison
"Sara said, minutes in, Tom grabbed her wrists and pinned her arms behind her head. He pushed her legs against her chest and forcefully penetrated her anus. They had never had anal sex before."
That puss got so wet from his alpha moves, he easily got 1/3 in off that love juice. Everytime I've had a bitch to this point without it being pre-planned, it's this next part that is uncomfortable. But for the guy it's easy just push on through because you are usually rock hard.
For all my bitch talk, he is a dick for doing that shit though if the girl said to stop. The penalty for this behavior is for the girl to cut his ass off from ever fucking again, but not claim rape. I've had a couple chicks tell me guys did this to them, but what they really get off on is the attention of it. In my experience, if she told all her girlfriend he did that, it would make 0 impact on the pussy he got in the future, and might even lead to some extra hookups with the friends.
LOL women.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259210) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 1:45 PM Author: Rambunctious Cowardly Toaster Laser Beams
Well, from the third hand account we have, it sounds like they had already been fucking:
"Sara said, minutes in, Tom grabbed her wrists and pinned her arms behind her head. He pushed her legs against her chest and forcefully penetrated her anus. They had never had anal sex before. They had never discussed it. It was painful. Sara began to struggle, screaming at him to stop, yelling at him to get off of her. He didn’t stop.
Afterwards, he laid next to her for a few seconds. They didn’t speak. He abruptly got out of bed, gathered his clothes, and walked out the door, leaving a handle of vodka behind him."
And since we're parsing it closely, note the inclusion of that second paragraph. Why is that included in the version she recounts for the story? Why did she feel it necessary to say that afterwards, he didn't cuddle her and whisper sweet nothings of gratitude in her ear and instead blew his load up his ass, rolled over, and left?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259743) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 2:49 PM Author: startling party of the first part sex offender
I take "minutes in" to mean minutes into getting to her room, not minutes into consensual vaginal intercourse, but I'm just going off the same poast you are.
Either way the issue here is clearly evidence. No one is claiming you can keep ass fucking over protest.
And yeah, that sounds like some sour grapes, but of course isn't dispositive. My feeling is this dude is the sort to habitually get very close to the rape line, at least, but I'm not willing to convict or expel him for it. Some sort of restraining order? Fine.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260086) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 1:45 PM Author: Diverse coldplay fan
So wait, if a chick is riding my cock and I stick a finger I her butthole and she says she doesn't like that, but I try again anyways, I just raped her?
So it's now libs position that one can simultaneously engage in both consensual sex and anal rape at the same time?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26259746) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 3:13 PM Author: Razzle Doobsian Marketing Idea
No she shouldn't. Cupping isn't licking. If you had said "don't touch my balls" yeah maybe she could be charged with groping or something.
Your comparison is insane btw. Penetration is a really big deal. Much bigger than a part of your body being briefly touched in a different way than a way you previously said you dislike.
People should have a total and complete right to control what's inserted inside them. You're arguing against this?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260202) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 3:29 PM Author: Diverse coldplay fan
In both my hypos I said the person responded indicated "didn't like that." Not that they explicitly said no. In response to the female hypo, you changed her response to "don't do that" in order to position the female as not giving consent and therefore being sexually assaulted. In response to the male hypo, you make a cupping vs licking distinction so that you can conclude no assault took place.
Lol at your disingenuous shitlib hackery.
My point is that sexual intercourse is an organic, emotional act. You could dissect almost any sex act, especially if it is an aggressive romp, into various technicalities of rape or sexual assault. But that is fucking retarded, just like this entire shitlib crusade.
And yes I think people generally should have control over what is inserted inside them. But I'm also not stupid enough to think that circumstances are *really* different when two people acquiese to getting naked and putting their penis and vagina inside each other.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260301) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 3:31 PM Author: Razzle Doobsian Marketing Idea
Hypo 1: attempted Penetration. You try again. You're clearly going against her will by doing the exact same act.
The latter hypo is two separate acts.
This is obvious. State your IQ.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260318) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 4:09 PM Author: Tan immigrant
http://i.imgur.com/UAsZlnN.gif?1
nsfw
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260589) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2014 4:19 PM Author: Black excitant wagecucks garrison
Truth be told, if the stupid girl REALLY was raped/traumatized by the incident, she should have told him to GTFO, don't get within 100 feet of me again, or talk to me OR I WILL FRAG YOUR FUCKING ASS.
but she didn't, because she didn't decide it was sexual assault until months later after using it to attention whore/gossip/gain sympathy from all her friends and white knights.
this is just a continuation of the attention whoring. she thinks she can "get something out of this". attention/sympathy/fame/job/etc.
it really hurts my heart to see the female fall this far. it is truly impossible to have any respect for them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26260630) |
Date: September 3rd, 2014 10:11 PM Author: Beady-eyed pearl rigpig
It is outrageous that a SERIAL RAPIST is getting DEM IVY TREATS despite annihilating the youth and innocence of these women.
#wrongsideofHIStory
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26262605) |
Date: September 4th, 2014 12:04 PM Author: motley school
There are some very unchristian things being said about this poor woman itt. Very disappointed, XO.
Think of it this way:
1) She was raped, in which case, we ought to obviously feel bad for her for undergoing such a traumatic experience.
2) She was not raped, in which case, we ought to pity her for being so misguided by the modern shitlib establishment that she is blind to the light of Christ.
We should be PRAYING, not HATING.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2664282&forum_id=2#26265901) |
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