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Boalt Dean Recommends Expulsion of Trustafarian
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:45 PM Author: Up-to-no-good zippy internal respiration persian Subject: for reals.... Posted at 10:49 am at http://memoirsofhastings.blogspot.com/
BREAKING: Dean Edley, Boalt, has recommended that the student who posted the threat on XOXO be expelled. The case goes to U.C. Berkeley's Judicial Affairs Office for final adjudication.
April 25, 2007 To: Boalt Community From: Dean Christopher Edley, Jr.
It has been a week since the distressing events involving a Boalt student's threat —a hoax — against the community at Hastings College of the Law. I am writing to let you know that all our actions following the incident have been taken with the intention of securing the safety and well-being of our community and that at Hastings, while respecting the procedural rights of the student.
On Wednesday, April 25, 2007, the Law School filed a complaint with the U.C. Berkeley Judicial Affairs Office against the law student who claimed responsibility for posting the threat on a website. We, the administrative leadership of Boalt, believe that the student's action is clearly in violation of a number of regulations detailed in the Student Code of Conduct. The case will be adjudicated by Judicial Affairs according to campus regulations. Those regulations prohibit us from disclosing the name of the student against whom we are proceeding.
Based on the facts as we understand them today, we have recommended expulsion. This is based not only on the intrinsic wrongfulness of the act itself, but also the disruption, turmoil and emotional toll on the Hastings community and, to a more limited extent, the Boalt community as well. I have received ample evidence of this through a great many emails, some of them painful to read.
This incident has once again confirmed for me the strength and qualities of the Boalt community. Even in this challenging circumstance, you have engaged in thoughtful and productive discussions. We should all take some pride in this, imperfect though we are.
Christopher Edley, Jr. Professor of Law and Dean |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:47 PM Author: Gaped center private investor So much for the wisdom of acknowledging responsibility for an idiotic act. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8010949) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:57 PM Author: thriller angry pozpig home TITCR!
For the laymen out there who constantly bitch about lawyers and the tendency to always encourage a client to deny everything unless there is uncontroverted proof, this is why. Personal accountability and responsibility gets you nowhere except shitcanned.
Denial, even if guilty, can often evolve into victory. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:00 PM Author: Trip Station it's amazing the morons in the boalt administration didnt take his (apparent) forthrightness into account when deciding on the sanction. hopefully he can convince the honor committee board or whatever not to expel him. hope, for his sake, some people familiar with the depraved sense of humor here are on the panel that decides his fate.
btw, wtf is wrong with people at boalt? they sent the dean "painful" emails describing the "emotional toll" of getting out of school early because of a dumb hoax? bunch of fags. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:02 PM Author: thriller angry pozpig home Boalt = Liberal feel-good pussies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011030) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:30 PM Author: burgundy nibblets I'm assuming the grammar and spelling mistakes are what made the emails 'painful'. edit: I see this point was already made below. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:03 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor "Denial, even if guilty, can often evolve into victory."
wow, are you for serious? if you're guilty of an offense and you deny it, your denial can "often evolve into victory"? OMG wow your pretty smart!!! |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:09 PM Author: thriller angry pozpig home Uhhh yeah . . . I am serious. If you cannot see the truth in my statement, then maybe you should try to work on separating moral convictions from professional obligations.
Is denying an act that you are guilty of morally reprehensible? To a lot of people.
Does denial ultimately result in charges dropped and cases dismissed? Every day in a lot of courtrooms around this country. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:12 PM Author: 180 police squad He's being ironic. His point is that your point is obvious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011082) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: Trip Station suuuuuuuuuure he is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011087) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor lol tytyty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011090) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:42 PM Author: thriller angry pozpig home Except my post, as it clearly indicated, was directed toward the layman. To him or her, the point is not obvious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011242) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:48 PM Author: razzle range On the one hand i feel bad for him. This is WAAAY worse than he deserves (In fact he deserves a medal for actually being a moral person).
But on the other hand, it was SO STUPID for him to come forward. Particularly as a law student, he shouldve known that confessions are almost always the wrong answer. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:02 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter proof that most academics are pussified pieces of shit that abuse their "power" whenever they get the chance.
fuck you, christopher edley. get a real job. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: anal locus codepig this is so fucking credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012943) |
Date: April 26th, 2007 2:47 PM Author: 180 police squad Wow.
Dinged for stupidity. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:08 PM Author: silver jet-lagged kitty trailer park ding!
never forget
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=592614&mc=52&forum_id=2
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/AutoAdmit
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=599817&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=592396&mc=58&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=290757&mc=17&forum_id=2
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/220037/autoadmit_threat_shuts_down_hastings.html
http://anonymouslawyer.blogspot.com/2007/03/reader-sent-me-link-to-washington-post.html
http://onlinereputation.googlepages.com/charityefforts
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=197266&mc=105&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=614676&mc=10&forum_id=2
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=592855&mc=5&forum_id=2
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=331077
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=617425&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591664&mc=9&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=54&forum_id=2
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=d3275a68320df53fb45fe1e232cb3b53
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=55&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617176&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=1&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=15&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617793&mc=34&forum_id=2
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:48 PM Author: 180 police squad Did trusta have a manifesto?
Will he be able to transfer anywhere? Maybe Hastings? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:49 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete if it's true that they don't log IPs, had trustafarian not fessed up he'd be scot free, instead he's expelled from law school.
i think it's safe to say he's made a huge mistake |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:53 PM Author: razzle range TITCR. He'd probably be scott free even if they did log IPs. If they had his IP, theyd still have to prove it was him, which might be difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8010981) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: dark passionate base queen of the night Not sure about that. By fessing up, he almost surely has avoided criminal penalties that he had a significantly better chance of facing if the FBI had to spend a couple weeks subpoenaing a bunch of people to get IP logs, and then doing IP traces to locate who posted it. Sure, they may not have caught him. But they may have. Especially since they immediately had the lead that he was a Boalt student. How many males are in the Boalttt 1L class?
There are plenty of other things to do besides being a lawyer. You can't do them if you're in Federal Ass Pounding Prison.
That said, I'm sure he didn't expect this result. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:33 PM Author: burgundy nibblets Agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011193) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:35 PM Author: Gaped center private investor if Boalt kept logs of which IP was connecting to which urls, then they could possibly have tracked the posting url to trusty's mac address. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011205) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:50 PM Author: Well-lubricated Boistinker Main People "This incident has once again confirmed for me the strength and qualities of the Boalt community."
So which incident are they talking about:
1) A Boalt student shutting down a whole law school?
2) The support of expulsion of a kid who made a joke on the interweb that everyone grossly overreacted to?
I'm confused what he's actually proud of. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:54 PM Author: Territorial Racy Ticket Booth Wow. This seems like a stunning overreaction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8010985) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:54 PM Author: Trip Station seems like a good time for that WGWAG troll/tattle to attn whore and tell us what a great person he is for calling boalt over that stupid fucking post that any schmuck could tell was a joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8010988) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:54 PM Author: maroon mood kitty cat Take-home moral, boys and grrls?
DENY, DENY, DENY!! |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:57 PM Author: Drunken Spectacular Ladyboy This has to be the first XOXO initiated expulsion...and from a T14 nonetheless!!! Im so proud..... Still don't think act merits expulsion though. Trusta just must repeat the mantra: BANKINGPWNSLAW Bet this makes it hard to study for finals though! Seriously? what do you do? get stoned? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:28 PM Author: floppy goyim And then turn yourself in to the DEA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011167) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:44 PM Author: laughsome orchestra pit love of her life Priceless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011547) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:59 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel Well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011934) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:58 PM Author: cocky whorehouse milk Horrible.
Does this guy get to plead his case? can he bring a lawyer? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:58 PM Author: Sepia Stag Film This saddens me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011012) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:59 PM Author: Hairraiser fanboi sound barrier what did he actually say in the threat? I missed this whole thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011014) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:02 PM Author: hyperactive international law enforcement agency How sad. He was forthright and he got pwned for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011029) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:04 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy Agreed. Way to encourage people to be candid about their mistakes in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011038) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:08 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor you're missing the point. it's not about discouraging candidness. it's about discouraging retarded terroristic threats. it's about discouraging retarded behavior, behavior unbecoming a law student. being "candid about your mistakes" becomes completely irrelevant if you don't make those retarded mistakes in the first place. law students, just in case you've forgotten, are held to a pretty high standard of behavior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011065) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:10 PM Author: sable exhilarant cuck stock car Neither you nor the dean gets to make the decision that this is "not about discouraging candidness." The dean's decision will have the effect, whether he likes it or not, so it is about discouraging candidness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011076) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:14 PM Author: 180 police squad Well, it's about both, arguably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011096) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: sable exhilarant cuck stock car Oh, absolutely. I don't think coming forward should allow him to get off completely, but it should be a mitigating factor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011106) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:21 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor a minimally mitigating factor, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011131) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:44 PM Author: Excitant Famous Landscape Painting Thing is, how many people in the Boalt community will actually know that Trustafarian turned himself in? Despite rach's statement I've seen many bloggers just claim that the guy was caught, or incorrectly say that rach outed him through IP logs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011253) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:39 PM Author: Low-t regret sounds like it's time for a sticky! that worked really well at convincing everybody that you resigned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011522) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:14 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy I've already posted a lot on this and don't want to go into again now. But if you care to see what I've said about it, you can look at http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=618518&mc=74&forum_id=2#7979545 and http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=618281&mc=24&forum_id=2#7979137
Isn't there an "Xoxo Posters Against Racism" meeting you're supposed to be at now? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:17 PM Author: Gaped center private investor dude, there's a huge difference between making a terroristic threat and talking shit on this message board. do you really believe that white girls with asian guys is a significant part of our culture? did jews in auschwitz really fellate prison guards for the protein? did you throw a big turd at an african-american today? is bukkake really a wonderful and beautiful japanese art form? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011111) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:22 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy Wtf, some of those are definitely not true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011134) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:22 PM Author: Trip Station you mean none of those are real? :\ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011136) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:36 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed Terrible joke not intended to be believed =/= "threat" or "hoax" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011817) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:25 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol wow are you fucking retarded or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012058) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:29 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed No. Thanks for the constructive post, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012086) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:47 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol no, you're actually extremely stupid.
if this were all about some stupid joke, would trustafarian be facing expulsion right now? uh, no you fucking retard.
the whole fucking point is that it doesn't matter what trustafarian "intended." please tell me you understand this. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:50 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel Is this where I kick your ass on federal case law again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012189) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:52 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol i love it when you ttt students get your facts all mixed up. your minds are soooo slow.
i've never discussed federal case law with you, faggot. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:52 PM Author: Gaped center private investor the person who trotted trustafarian's quickly erased post to the dean should have known that there was no intent behind it. the "snitch" acted purely out of schadenfreude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012200) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:54 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol no no no no no. this is fucking retarded. a day earlier, a fucking MASSACRE happened. the snitch was extremely justified in surmising that that shit might happen again. why are you guys having such a hard time understanding this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012209) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:05 PM Author: Gaped center private investor bc posters on xoxo like to shoot off their mouths, not their (nonexistent) guns. this is a group that thinks tubgirl is funny. it is the casa del bad taste. xoxoers might say the hastings dean has the syph, but that's as far as it goes. besides, hastings isn't even a top 25 ls. no xoxoer would deign even to piss on a ttt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012258) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:07 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol see, this is my point. your points are so untenable and ridiculous that you basically have to resort to a bunch of irrelevant, retarded nonsense to make them sound remotely reasonable. you're a funny guy though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012266) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:13 PM Author: Gaped center private investor my point is you can't rip a post out of context and present it as if it could be taken at face value. trustafarian posted here before: the usual "chicks are ugly here" crap. there were many indicia of unreliability. If your mom said "I could just shoot myself" when she made a mistake, you wouldn't have her committed, would you? We call that hyperbole, exaggeration. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:19 PM Author: arousing yapping senate pistol i agree that there was a lot of evidence of unreliability. that doesn't mean trustafarian wasn't justified in bringing the threat to the attention of hastings staff. evidence of unreliability DOES NOT mean the threat wasn't real. all it means is that the threat was most likely fake. in light of the VT massacre and the actual lives that perished there, even the "least likely" threat ought to be brought to the attention of authorities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012320) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:08 PM Author: Gaped center private investor it's all about an overreaction to a stupid joke. the dean doesn't know xoxo from a hole in the ground, so the dean had to take the "threat" at face value. but the "snitch" knew all about xoxoers' retarded, infantile, sophomoric senses of humor. shit, someone could have driven over to talk to trustafarian before taking this cock and bull story to the dean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012267) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:08 PM Author: Ruddy Indirect Expression You're a moron. Your arguments are so blatanly circular you should be embarassed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018368) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:09 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed I've come to the conclusion that AK47 is flame 90% of the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018374) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:05 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor no, he committed a bunch of offenses and got pwn3d for it. that he admitted his stupidity does make him a sympathetic figure but it doesn't really make him any less deserving of punishment. boalt and hastings to trustafarian: thanks for being forthright, but being forthright doesn't make it any better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011050) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:07 PM Author: sable exhilarant cuck stock car Sure it does. If someone is willing to take responsibility for their actions, I think they're less deserving of punishment than someone who isn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011062) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:12 PM Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor remorse does mitigate things slightly. emphasis on slightly. here we have the choice between expulsion (and a shitload of other disciplinary penalties) and non-expulsion. whatever slight mitigation his admission provides certainly doesn't exempt him from expulsion. you're retarded if you think merely admitting one's guilt completely exculpates him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011085) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:15 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor dont be such a douchebag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011099) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:40 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed Seconded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011842) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:47 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship also seconded
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:01 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel Fourthed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011940) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:20 PM Author: medicated mad cow disease fifthed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016361) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:09 PM Author: Ruddy Indirect Expression sixthed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018373) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:27 PM Author: spruce office doctorate fifthed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018503) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:41 PM Author: motley mint prole wagecucks Seventhed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018610) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:03 PM Author: blue marvelous tanning salon wrinkle "I have received ample evidence of this through a great many emails, some of them painful to read."
at least he admits boalttt students are shitty writers. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: 180 police squad *lol* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011104) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:18 PM Author: Trip Station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011115) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:23 PM Author: Amber doobsian dopamine filthpig lawl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011141) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:04 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye presumably he came forward knowing that he's an idiot, and posted from home, or at least on his own PC on the school or his home network. if he hadn't come forward the FBI would have most certainly done what they could to find him -- and not to be paranoid, i think they would have found him (patriot act, or not - a judge would have given a subpoena).
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:07 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter but would the judge have given *two* subpoenas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011055) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:07 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011059) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:07 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete if there are no IP logs what exactly are you going to subpoena?
i would have wiped all XOXO evidence off my computer then gone out and bought an unsecured wireless router. let's see them prove it for expulsion then |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:08 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye ..i'm sure you're way ahead of forensic IT specialists at FBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011066) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:10 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete I take it you know absolutely nothing about the internet, then.
there are a lot of things where there simply is no information. it's questionable that it could even be traced back to your IP without logs, but even if it could removing the evidence from your computer is not terribly difficult. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:12 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye i thought most computers have an identity.... that is unique... not just an IP issue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011081) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete MAC addresses are only available on an intranet level, they are not something logged by the outside internet. everything that goes through a router looks the same to the outside net pretty much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011089) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:18 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye fascinating. regardless, i have utmost faith that our govt has its ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011114) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:25 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete 3 words: "heckuva job brownie" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011154) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:04 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel Your faith in Jeebus and Shrub doesn't make MAC addresses magically appear in the logs of computers on the internet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011953) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:03 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel God, you're a fucking idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011947) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:08 PM Author: Overrated Business Firm Hominid or just taken your laptop and buried it in the desert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011067) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:10 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye if boalttt was playing along couldn't they search back and matched campus network logins to the mac? i don't know... anything.. about IT. but i guess the FBI does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011074) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:11 PM Author: Smoky soul-stirring gas station keepsake machete well if it was a campus network he was on then he was much more likely to be screwed. I was thinking home internet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011080) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye im saying at SOME point he used the school network. and assuming that somehow they have some way of finding what pc made posts. cross-reference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011091) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: sable exhilarant cuck stock car If everyone kept all their logs, then yes, it would be possible. As a matter of fact, though, VPN and web proxy logs are often not kept for very long at all, because they quickly grow extremely large and generally quite useless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011094) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 2:41 AM Author: Transparent galvanic address travel guidebook Ebay ad:
One laptop, slightly used. Don't use it on the internets for 6 to 12 months, plz. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:09 PM Author: Trip Station 1. there are IP logs. plenty of them. people can stop trotting out that tired urban legend.
2. if there were no ip logs, would rachmiel get in trouble with law enforcement agencies? if no ip logs and someone makes a threat on his board and the FBI cant ID them, wouldnt he have hell to pay? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:18 PM Author: 180 police squad I can't believe board managers have a legal responsibility to maintain logs just in case someone makes a goofy threat online. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011117) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: Gaped center private investor no one can force you to keep ip logs. why do you hate (intellectual) freedom? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:02 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel What did the original post say? We would have never known. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011943) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:06 PM Author: Snowy vibrant liquid oxygen bawdyhouse Exceedingly rude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011051) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 8:53 PM Author: silver jet-lagged kitty trailer park never forget
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=592614&mc=52&forum_id=2
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/AutoAdmit
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=599817&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=592396&mc=58&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=290757&mc=17&forum_id=2
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/220037/autoadmit_threat_shuts_down_hastings.html
http://anonymouslawyer.blogspot.com/2007/03/reader-sent-me-link-to-washington-post.html
http://onlinereputation.googlepages.com/charityefforts
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=197266&mc=105&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=614676&mc=10&forum_id=2
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=592855&mc=5&forum_id=2
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=331077
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=617425&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591664&mc=9&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=54&forum_id=2
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=d3275a68320df53fb45fe1e232cb3b53
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=55&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617176&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=1&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=15&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=12&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617793&mc=34&forum_id=2
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:06 PM Author: sable exhilarant cuck stock car The dean made a stupid choice. If confessing means expulsion, nobody will ever confess to anything. There's simply no reason to!
It's especially disgusting that the dean felt it necessary to consider the panicked idiots and their pathetic trauma. I'm sick of coddling skittish fools who piss their pants at the sight of their own shadow. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:15 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter this is exactly correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011101) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:37 PM Author: burgundy nibblets Yeah. I can see kicking him out for a year, perhaps, but outright expulsion leads to the result you bring up.
It's a true victory for victim rights. Yeah. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:08 PM Author: Trip Station hypothetically, assuming damages from LS explusion, would trustafarian have any sort of legal case against: boalt? rachmiel/xoxo? How many WGWAG (the tattle)?
could he argue that he considered his post inane nonsense because of the type of place xoxo is and that it shouldnt be held to the same "fire in a crowded theatre" standard to which people have compared it?
i imagine not, but i'm curious to see if there are any legal opinions on this. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:21 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship he only has a case against boalt for wrongful expulsion, and not a very good one at that.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:32 PM Author: Gaped center private investor a case against rach or xoxo? "stop me before I post again"? this is a bulletin board, and trusty simply filled out a card and thumbtacked it to the board. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:12 PM Author: Narrow-minded Charcoal Mother Useless Brakes i wouldn't expell him for fear he'd change his target to a different UC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011084) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor seriously, one of the trolls here with their IP masking crap should retaliatepwn.
not on this forum of course. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: greedy scarlet point His punishment should be to transfer to Hastings for 1 year and stand in front of the school with a sign around his neck identifying himself as the "shooter". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011108) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:20 PM Author: 180 police squad Just the transfer to Hastings would be punishment enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011123) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:37 PM Author: blue marvelous tanning salon wrinkle i'd rather be expelled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011218) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship This is absolutely ridiculous and infuriating. I defended the decision to report Trustafarian's post to Hastings. I defended the decision to evacuate the campus. I defended the FBI's desire to identify and interview him. All those things are reasonable reactions given the circumstances at the time.
But the "threat" was confirmed to be what most people knew it would be: a bad and stupid joke. Trustafarian is guilty of bad judgment. He's not guilty of an offense disqualifying him from the legal profession. He more than made up for his poor judgment by apologizing, coming forward, and cooperating with authorities.
I agree with everyone else on this thread who says that Boalt is making their message loud and clear: DON'T come forward, DON'T be responsible if you make a mistake, DON'T be honest, and DON'T apologize even when you've screwed up. Boalt's decision to try and expel him HARMS the legal profession, rather than bettering it.
Fuck you, Boalt. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:20 PM Author: vivacious azure affirmative action school good post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011122) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:37 PM Author: flushed brethren garrison hear motherfucking hear.
this shit pisses me off like fucking crazy. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:43 PM Author: Territorial Racy Ticket Booth Excellent post.
This seems like a textbook case of groupthink by the Boalt administration, where enough angry people got in a room and the group eventually coalesced around the most extreme reaction. The series of seemingly self-satisfied e-mails coming from the Dean also supports this interpretation of events.
Hopefully cooler heads will prevail at the actual sentencing phase, though I think it is extremely unlikely that the Judicial Affairs bureaucrats are going to stand up to the Law School administration. My guess is that the decision has already effectively been made. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:46 PM Author: aromatic vengeful death wish gunner I'd be inclined to write a letter of support if I didn't think it would make things worse for him. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:48 PM Author: Territorial Racy Ticket Booth I feel the same way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011273) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:53 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship if you want to send an email I think it should be disassociated with your participation on this board. it should be signed with your real name, and which law school you are affiliated with. those would be persuasive, i would think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011296) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:17 PM Author: aromatic vengeful death wish gunner Yeah - that was the plan. Was this statement released outside the Boalt community? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:19 PM Author: Excitant Famous Landscape Painting It's on all the big Boalt and Hastings blogs, and Leiter will probably be all over it within a few hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011421) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:34 PM Author: aromatic vengeful death wish gunner Good point. It really, really bugs me that this guy is being crucified for taking responsibility for a bad decision.
After reflecting on this a bit, I don't think I will hide the fact that I read this board and even post once in a while. In my opinion, the racist, sexist crap on here adds no value. That said, this board does have a great assortment of intelligent posters with the kind of dark, sharp humor that I appreciate. I read this board for it's law-related content and I read it for its often edgy humor. Trustafarian obviously missed the mark with the Hastings threat thread, but expulsion is just ridiculous for the reasons many have already listed.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:48 PM Author: Gaped center private investor if not even his dean will support him, why would the rest of the committee? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011272) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:49 PM Author: Territorial Racy Ticket Booth Agreed. I edited immediately after posting to indicate how unlikely I think that result is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011283) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:01 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye hey fucktard -- it's not about telling people "DONT COME FORWARD", it's about telling people "DONT MAKE MISTAKES THAT AREN'T ACTAULLY MISTAKES - USE SOME MOTHERFUCKING JUDGMENT YOU FUCKING MORON". i think it will be effective, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011639) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:05 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship im not a fucktard. you're a fucktard. stoopid dumhed.
anyway, i think we can all agree that mistakes are often made by all of us. we've all made them in moments of brain deadness when we werent thinking things through as carefully as we should have. the point here is not to say, as you suggest: "never have brain dead moments". the point is to say, "if you have a brain dead moment and do something stupid, react to it in a responsible way".
boalt sends the opposite signal. "if you make a mistake, hide, lie, deny, accuse, and run way but by no means come forward and apologize". |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:10 PM Author: Bateful talking crackhouse water buffalo Should we bump your fbi thread so everyone can see you attempting to lecture me on how xoxo posters are about to be charged with "hate speech"?
That was a fun discussion. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:44 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye yes, please, bump just one of a million fucking examples of you proving what a huge piece of shit flamebait sucker you are. only thing worse than ridiculous flame statements are the idiots who still don't have it figured out a fucking week later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012159) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:27 PM Author: medicated mad cow disease This moron actually thinks there's a law against hate speech in the US? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016430) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:43 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed Seconded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011857) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: flatulent heaven somebody calll the whaaaaaaambulance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011110) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:42 PM Author: Drab elite library I love that line.
I use it all the time. Not many people find it funny though.
It especially works well when the complaining is absolutely justified, like
"You stold my purse!"
"Ohhhh should I call the Whaaaaambulance?" |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:25 PM Author: provocative idiot hairy legs almost as funny as "want some cheese with that whine?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011756) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:19 PM Author: electric sexy stain factory reset button Horrible decision.
Had trusta remained silent, Hastings police would have probably needed days to uncover the fraud, if they ever would have proven it to their satisfaction. Class would have been cancelled for much longer than half a day.
By acting as he did, Trusta not only did the moral thing to minimize the repercussions of his recklessness, but he saved the Hastings community from MORE pain and anguish. he should be censored but not expelled. The Interwebs will be full of this kind of stuff, and with this decision Boalt Law will certainly be taken into account by future Trustafarians who are reckless with speech or a bad joke.
The idiots at Columbia who rushed the stage with the minutemen were only reprimanded. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:25 PM Author: Territorial Racy Ticket Booth TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011155) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:44 PM Author: aromatic vengeful death wish gunner I agree with this post entirely. By coming forward immediately, he prevent a bad situation from becoming much, much worse.
Original stupid post notwithstanding, it took a lot of integrity and courage for him to contact the authorities and stop the Hastings situation from escalating. This wasn't the sort of thing that was just going to blow over in a few hours. Coming forward prevented a brief scare from developing into something far worse.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:19 PM Author: white mad-dog skullcap but speaking out against evil conservatives is never a crime.
it falls outside any punishment that a similar act that does attack the liberals enemies (like rushing the stage when the respected world leader Ahmadinejad spoke at a similar convention, maybe) would recieve. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:20 PM Author: razzle range The threat was made on xoxo. I honestly think that had the threat been made in a different venue and had had the same repercussions, the dean would not be asking for his head.
Law schools are at war with xoxo. Trustafarian's head was merely the first to roll. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:22 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor who will fight back?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011133) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:23 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy Once we figure out what "collective action problem" means: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&mc=27&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011139) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:24 PM Author: electric sexy stain factory reset button can we get CLS pro bono hours for suing Boalt Hall and Reputation Defender? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011145) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy I'm still waiting for my pro bono hours for all my posts on this board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011158) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor dude. in light of what we learned in this past week, how easy would it be for one person to "get back" at a high strung law school?
something I would never advocate or encourage, of course. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy Oh yeah, saying you're "not" going to do something has worked really well in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011163) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor well I could never get away with something so irresponsible and foolish, as easy as it might be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011185) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy Especially on a day this sunny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011195) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:38 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor haha, I wasn't even talking about actual violence. One stupid prank post on any forum would shut down Boalttt for the rest of the school year.
It would be stupid and asking for trouble, but I bet some of the real hacker trolls on here would see it as a challenge. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:32 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor dp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011191) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:22 PM Author: Diverse Navy Friendly Grandma Voyeur This decision sets an astonishingly bad example. I hope he/she is not actually expelled in the end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011137) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:23 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker There's a big difference between Edley's "recommendation" and the actual punishment itself. Edley doesn't get to impose the penalty, but if the penalty is more rational, and takes account of the fact that Trustafarian stepped forward, then Edley has saved face and all's well that ends fairly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011138) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:25 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter boalt loses. who would want to go to a school that would sell you out in a second with a reactionary piece of shit dean? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011151) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:30 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker Reactionary? He's a classic lefty, and lefties hate free speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011178) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:38 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter not reactionary in the general political sense, but in the academic sense.
so many of these shitheels hang on to long-since-passed (if ever existed) perceptions of law schools to be utopian "academies" where everyone is polite and high-level discussion of the legal, political, and philosophical takes place and their bullshit "scholarship" actually means something. newsflash profs, courts hardly ever even cite law reviews anymore.
trusta's joke and this board are deviations from their utopia and seen as attacks on their lifestyle. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:48 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker Even if all that's true, and I don't really argue against it, this event doesn't sink Boalt any lower or elevate it any higher than it is right now. It's a wash on its rep, its ability to attract students and all that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011274) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:54 PM Author: flesh cruel-hearted trump supporter i know that, given a similar choice (say northwestern or duke), i would not choose boalt. i imagine this applies to others as well.
your administration is supposed to stick up for you, not hang you out to dry. this edley dood lacks the sack to stick up for his man, fuck him. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:03 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker Suppose that Edley's motivated mostly by maintaining institutional prestige. What deans wouldn't be? And when you're applying from UG, the odds of choosing a different kind of dean and then having your choice turn out to matter are less than one in a million. Most UGs won't even know about this event anyway. And 100%, with perhaps you being the exception, will still make their choice based on rankings, geography, and cost. I'm not disagreeing with your interpretation but I don't see anything changing for Boalt as a result of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011330) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:25 PM Author: Wine Irradiated Abode Really Tough Guy I wish this was a situation like Larry Summers when he was President of Harvard. Then the Boalt faculty would gleefully seize this occasion to bash the Dean for making the ridiculous recommendation that he did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011153) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker My guess is that faculty at all law schools would be so horrified at what's posted at this site that they'd tend to abandon their free speech principles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011171) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:37 PM Author: heady cordovan sanctuary immigrant Trustafarian SHOULD have responded to the tattletale's posts by posting "It was a joke you fucking moron, lighten up."
Then, would the FBI really have expended the resources necessary to find out Trustafarian's identity when it wasn't even clear that a crime was committed? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:40 PM Author: burgundy nibblets yeah, that probably would have mitigated better than wgwag, although probably not completely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011235) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: heady cordovan sanctuary immigrant An outside reader would have no idea what "wgwag" means. It could easily be seen as part of the threat. A clear "I was joking, this was not a real threat" would have been much much better for Trustafarian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011335) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:40 PM Author: fragrant crawly church maybe this went too far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011236) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:43 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor nm whokebe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011248) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:52 PM Author: Trip Station pwned! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011294) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: Drab elite library you think so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011255) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship rofl
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:46 PM Author: fragrant crawly church well, only insofar as i alienated some of you guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011266) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:49 PM Author: fragrant crawly church this is really Cho's fault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011277) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:56 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship Trustafarian = Cho's final victim
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:05 PM Author: Magenta candlestick maker ha! so true, so true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011341) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:16 PM Author: fragrant crawly church dare i say, the "dead hand" of Cho? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011408) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:46 PM Author: henna misanthropic stage jewess 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011263) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:27 PM Author: Rambunctious pervert resort wtf. lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011460) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:44 PM Author: Curious field The thought of this guy having to explain to his friends/family why he is getting kicked out of law school and having his life ruined is sadly entertaining. "But Mom, you don't understand! I changed the post to say 'white girls with asian guys' right after! I thought the FBI would understand it was a joke!" |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:46 PM Author: fragrant crawly church trust lives (lived) down the hall from me. he doesn't have a mother, grew up in foster care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011262) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:48 PM Author: Curious field Hold on, you knew who this guy was and still notified Hastings about this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011275) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:50 PM Author: primrose godawful parlor imposter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011288) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:57 PM Author: fragrant crawly church i envied him for his trust fund and the amount of pot he was able to smoke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011311) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:24 PM Author: ruby boyish space omg, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011439) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:49 PM Author: Swollen parlour knife I would like Rachmiel to publicly give the identity of the snitch. He deserves, at the very least, public ostracism for this act. He intentionally ruined the career of a real person. Imagine if reporting obvious board flame to the authorities was more prevalent. Rach should out this fucker for the good of the website. I can't say this result is good for XO or any of its posters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011281) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:53 PM Author: Gaped center private investor This sounds appealing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011295) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:55 PM Author: fragrant crawly church he hasn't posted here in a long time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011305) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:11 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship sorry but i disagree.
i dont think the actions of the "snitch", Hastings, or the fbi were unreasonable.
bad judgment has been exercised here by only two individuals: trustafarian, and the overreacting dean of boalt. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:23 PM Author: Trip Station ive said this since day 1: the snitch should have said "this is a dangerous thing to say publically... unless you can convince me you're joking, i may notify hastings administrators about this because it seems like a threat"
instead, what did he do? he copied the post nad repeatedly bumped the thread to make sure it got lots of attn. then he presumably called hastings admin.
you dont think he exercised bad judgment? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:31 PM Author: fragrant crawly church should trust get a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011490) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:07 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship he absolutely should get a lawyer.
maybe even contact the EFF. dont know if they will be interested or not but they may be.
www.eff.org/
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:02 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship i dont think the actions you're complaining about (bumping the thread) had anything to do with what happened to trust. the triggering event for trust was the phone call to hastings. events after that were out of WG's control.
so no, i dont think he exercised bad judgment. while i sympathize with trust, let's not lose sight of the fact that HE did something very stupid that he should have foreseen would lead to trouble. people overreacting to stupid jokes is not exactly a completely unheard of phenomenon. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:15 PM Author: Gaped center private investor no, I think someone's taking an xoxo post seriously was unforeseeable and broke the chain of causation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012306) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:45 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship oh ok, so...
it was unforeseeable that one person reading xoxo would take the post seriously and call hastings
it was then unforeseeable that hastings would take the post seriously and call the fbi
it was then unforeseeable that the fbi would take the post seriously and contact xoxo in an effort to identify trustafarian.
you have several rounds of unforeseeable bizarre human behavior to explain away to the jury, pal. let me guess. the whole world is crazy except for you?
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:46 PM Author: Gaped center private investor "it was unforeseeable that one person reading xoxo would take the post seriously and call hastings " Yes. Even in the case of the one "threat" that was actually carried out: to send hi's family information to the yale faculty, posters engaged with lonelyvirgin and tried to dissuade him. No one tried to engage and dissuade trustafarian, indicating no one took it seriouly. forwarding the deleted post, w/o explaining the context of being surrounded by retarded humor from dipshit trolls was unforeseeable.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:01 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed So you're assuming that an actual killer would have say "nope, no joke" in the face of such threats? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011939) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:16 PM Author: Trip Station considering the bullshit people post on this board, it would have been pretty easy to clarify that trustafarian was joking and that hastings' administration did not need to be contacted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012013) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:20 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed Really? What would a killer say that would give away that his threat was not actually just a joke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012038) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 7:34 PM Author: Gaped center private investor How would a joker made it clear enough that his joke was just a joke? A smiley? a j/k lol? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012369) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:32 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed That's my point exactly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016874) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:59 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship again i also find it telling that trustafarian edited his post within 10 minutes. even he knew in retrospect that he'd crossed a line that he shouldnt have crossed. it may be "easier" to unring a bell on the internet than when you say something verbally, but this incident proves it is not always possible.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:10 PM Author: Hairless dull chapel You're wrong, fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011976) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:55 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed No, he doesn't. Reporting the post was not a mistake. Punishing someone for extremely bad taste is the mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011915) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 3:53 PM Author: exciting rose temple and the columbia minutemen protestors get warnings. f that, academia, ill be glad to be gone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011297) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:08 PM Author: fragrant crawly church how could he out the person while protecting the people who, with the same intention, outted all of those girls that complain about the board? while their injury is less, the personal responsibility of trust is greater here.
on balance, isn't it the same consideration? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:15 PM Author: Gaped center private investor crimes against xoxo man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011400) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:20 PM Author: Trip Station columbia minutemen posters?
explain? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:31 PM Author: blue marvelous tanning salon wrinkle protesters not posters.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LR2EOsqAVo8 |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:13 PM Author: multi-colored pearl shrine the trustafarian tragedy is now on par with the vtech shootings. good job liberals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011386) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:29 PM Author: appetizing twisted turdskin If legitimate, this is really fucking pathetic. I hope this discourages people from accepting offers there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011468) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:04 PM Author: lavender pit telephone I never even applied there. God I hate Boalttt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011655) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:18 PM Author: very tactful fat ankles dilemma Plenty of 160s out there who would still accept their offers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012023) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:41 PM Author: Sienna coiffed electric furnace it was just a joke and everyone knows it. fuck boalt. what a TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011527) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:42 PM Author: Translucent Incel Only a small fraction of the ire is directed for the "threat." The law school administrations (and probably many students) are imputing the full weight of the black-hats prior actions on this site onto this guy.
The danger in posting on this forum is not that you'll act like a malicious troll and get found out -- because these people will probably use foreign proxies and Tor anonymity cloaks. The true danger is posting as a white or gray hatter under your own IP (as any normal person would), fucking up, and then having all the actions of the forum's black-hat users imputed onto you. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:47 PM Author: fragrant crawly church over my head. what the heck does this mean? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011562) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:49 PM Author: sickened cracking bbw Get over your perception of the importance of this board. No "black hatter" ever posted about how he was going to shoot up a law school. This assclown did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011568) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:59 PM Author: Demanding site associate Yup.
Deans don't especially care about this board. Trustafarian is punished for the words he posted, not for anything else. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:58 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed I think you are wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011931) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:14 PM Author: opaque house yeah, good think NDLS didn't just block the board this morning
you're kidding yourself if you don't think this board pisses off alot of people |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:36 PM Author: Demanding site associate Wow. *This* morning? You mean, a few days after Trustafarian went and got Hastings evacuated?
Must be a general non-specific grudge.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 10:51 PM Author: sickened cracking bbw It pisses people off about things that are, in the long run, trivial. There is a profound difference between posting nasty things about fellow law student losers and threatening to blow up a fucking law school.
In the end, nobody cares about the nasty things said to, by, or about Heide Iravani, Jodie Rosello, or that woman who's about to graduate from Chicago who shall not be named because Jaret and Anthony have an inexplicable hard on for her. But threatening to blow up a law school is serious shit and warrants serious consequences. I can't fathom why one would think otherwise. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:21 PM Author: Translucent Incel Upon reconsideration, the student probably would have had problems if he had posted the "joke" anywhere else.
Still, it is especially stupid to post it on a forum that is universally shunned by law deans and faculty + students -- even before the incident took place. People aren't going to think -- "well, this is one major screwup, but let's give this guy another chance." Instead, they're going to say -- "this is just another predictable event in a long chain of harassment, invasion of privacy, and now death threats." And in a way, they'd be right -- the forum has become much more corrosive than it was just a year ago |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:01 PM Author: sickened cracking bbw Full marks on reconsideration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8013789) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:51 PM Author: laughsome orchestra pit love of her life The rush to adjudication in this matter is sad. So many people do so many worse things and just get a slap on the wrist.
Thanks, Bush! |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:56 PM Author: Demanding site associate "Rush to adjudication" = adjudicating student's behavior in usual forum for adjudication of student behavior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011612) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 4:57 PM Author: Stirring bipolar selfie theatre Honestly, this is an expression of disdain for XOXO more than anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011623) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:03 PM Author: Excitant Famous Landscape Painting I don't think so. Others who have made (or been perceived to make) threats in the wake of VA Tech are also being prosecuted. If anything Trustafarian is getting off easier due to the lack of criminal charges being filed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011651) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:05 PM Author: Demanding site associate Simple math:
Deans are preoccupied with?
a. [Virginia Tech > XOXO] b. [Virginia Tech < XOXO]
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:07 PM Author: Salmon Dog Poop School Cafeteria titcr
The politically correct law deans must put a stop to the free expression of ideas (or at least any ideas that they do not like). They are thought control nuts!
The feds cannot convict this guy of anything as the 9th circuit requires intent -- probably why no charges have been filed. This was clearly a JOKE! No one questions that. The Hastings Dean admittted that she knew it was a joke. She did not like the joke so she did everything within her power to ruin the person making the joke. Both Deans should be ashamed of themselves. They made a mountain out of a molehill.
Good job Deans!
I hope they both lose their jobs over the shitty way they handled this situation. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:20 PM Author: beady-eyed abusive university quadroon Edley did the right thing. Only Chicago is proud of its xoxohth trolls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011734) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: burgundy nibblets free expression of ideas? I think that may be leaving things a bit out of context. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8014380) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:23 PM Author: Splenetic Market Getting kicked out after one year might be better than going through two more years, incurring $100K more debt (assuming no actual trust fund), and then having serious C&F problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011749) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:46 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship would c&f application require disclosure of an attempted expulsion even if he is not expelled?
there was no arrest, misdemeanor or felony. obviously no conviction. he was merely investigated by law enforcement. so far none of those things alone would compel c&f disclosure. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:56 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye stfu. of course it would (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011921) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:05 PM Author: dark passionate base queen of the night No, it wouldn't. At least not in the state I am taking the bar in. The school probably will mention it, however. But he wouldn't have to on his portion of the application. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011958) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:08 PM Author: Splenetic Market If he doesn't get expelled he will at least get suspended or put on some sort of probation. Law school probation/suspension is not reportable in your state? What fucking state do you live in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011971) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:11 PM Author: dark passionate base queen of the night "would c&f application require disclosure of an attempted expulsion even if he is not expelled?"
I took this to mean he was not given any discipline. If he were suspended, that would be different. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:53 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship do you always change the facts behind a question asked of you before then challenging its absurdity? what fucking law school do you attend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012205) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 8:42 PM Author: Splenetic Market Dear Retard,
There is a difference between drawing an obvious conclusion and changing the facts.
HTFH |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 8:14 PM Author: Infuriating Institution the state of denial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012545) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:57 PM Author: Razzmatazz bisexual black woman lay If the school disciplines him at all, it will definitely be reported to C&F. If they don't discipline him, I don't know. I suspect it would still be reported. Even if C&F doesn't require reporting of disciplinary proceedings that don't result in punishment, the C&F will still find out because the C&F asks the Dean if there is any reason to question the applicant's fitness for admission to the bar. If this Dean is recommending expulsion, you can bet he has a reason to question trust's fitness for admission to the bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011925) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:56 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship titcr
But I don't believe the reporting of this incident, even involving a milder punishment like suspension, will bar him from passing c&f.
this was a lapse in judgment perhaps akin to a dui. it was not an issue involving his moral turpitude. dui convicts routinely pass c&f as long as they are honest in their disclosures. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:58 PM Author: Splenetic Market Disciplinary action of any sort is reportable in Illinois; I imagine that it is reportable in California as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011929) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 5:58 PM Author: Demanding site associate Isn't it bizarre how the rest of the world doesn't behave according to XOXO norms? They really have lost perspective out there ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8011930) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:42 PM Author: fuchsia set round eye 175 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012152) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:27 PM Author: Filthy menage serves him right for confessing. given his profound naivety, he belongs in a school that serves the dumbs (cooley, texas southern, western state, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012072) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 6:56 PM Author: Milky talented double fault principal's office 200 of these posts are Trustafarian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012218) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 8:43 PM Author: Chestnut autistic multi-billionaire Depends on where he posted the message from. If he was at home he was screwed if the FBI ever got involved. Any chance that if he was on the school network he could have just torched his computer, bought a new one with cash and pretended nothing ever happened? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012732) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 9:02 PM Author: Up-to-no-good zippy internal respiration persian One of Hastings' ethics profs said he would expel Trustafarian if he were managing the situation. Said such a gross lack of judgment should not be tolerated and would certainly lead to disbarment were Trust already an attorney. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8012880) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:49 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship well, an ethics professor at hastings would have to recuse himself if he were really hearing the situation in a judicial capacity.
i would be interested to know what law profs in other schools and states think.
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:49 PM Author: cocky whorehouse milk now we know why he teaches at Hastings. This is nowhere near disbarment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8014149) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:32 AM Author: Trip Station that dumbass sounds like a fucking tool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8014474) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 11:39 PM Author: deranged athletic conference indian lodge What if he was drunk and hit enter too soon?
I mean, what if this were true, or he said it. "I was drunk, and fooling around and was going to write a satire about the VA-Tech incident and accidentally hit a tab and enter and it submitted it before I had a chance to full explain this was not a threat or anything of that magnitude, following that I realized I made a mistake, and erased the post and posted another joke, and went to sleep quite drunk, here is what I intended to post, as you see, it was clearly a satire and not an active threat, more of an excerpt from a possible play"
What would have happened then? The equivalent of a technical error, hell, one wonders what would happen if he printed out a piece of paper with this on it, and then said he got the idea from the paper and was simply quoting something he found on the ground at his school, etc.
I think there were many hypotheticals in this situation which would have been more than enough to clear him and put significant doubt on it.
I think a lot of people post shit while drunk and on accident, obviously he's a retard for posting this, at all, and a bigger retard for completely confessing to this, when there were many more rational explanations for his misbehavior, which would have been better than the WGWAG defense. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:27 AM Author: burgundy nibblets What if cats were dogs and dogs were cats? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8014430) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:39 AM Author: Salmon Dog Poop School Cafeteria I'm sure the Boalt and Hastings Deans are feeling all big and powerful now. They really showed that Trustafarian kid a thing or two. And xoxo, well, you guys better watch out!
Dean Edley: great job on supporting your students!
Dean Newton: great job in the drama queen role! |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 2:53 AM Author: Fear-inspiring buck-toothed toaster When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 11:47 AM Author: gay mexican When the Law School Deans condemned the T14 contest, I did not speak out, because I was not Paulie Walnuts.
When the Law School Deans condemned our racism, I did not speak out, because I never posted "nigger."
When the Law School Deans condemned our sexism, I did not speak out, because I only made fun of females too fat to be human.
When the Law School Deans disinvited rachmiel and let Fertik speak, I did not speak out, because I did not go to Harvard.
When the Law School Deans came for Trustafarian, I did not speak out, because I didn't post a death threat.
When they came for the rest of XOXO, there was no one left to speak out. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:46 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship ROFL!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016543) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:47 PM Author: gay mexican thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016548) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:56 PM Author: concupiscible bossy therapy "When the Law School Deans condemned our sexism,
I did not speak out,
because I only made fun of females too fat to be human."
I <3 you.
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Date: April 27th, 2007 2:02 PM Author: aphrodisiac church building national security agency 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8017061) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 11:51 AM Author: aggressive twinkling uncleanness Somebody over on above the law made a good point about this whole situation. Didn't Trusty say that he decided NOT to do it? In all the coverage of the incident, I think this fact gets way to little notice.
If the FBI wanted to prosecute him, what would they charge him with? How is what he said any different from someone posting that they just decided not to rob the local Walmart?
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:25 PM Author: mind-boggling state Right, and he said he "maybe" on Wednesday, but he got in touch with the FBI and convinced them, before Wednesday, that there was no threat (Hastings was not closed on Wednesday). So, even if one did not get the joke, there was never a threat on either Tuesday or Wednesday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016407) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:50 PM Author: Gaped center private investor Wednesday afternoon, kcbs was saying that hastings was closed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016982) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:50 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship First of all it doesn't look he will be prosecuted anyway.
But more importantly, the issue you raise goes more to the adequacy of the evidence, rather than the ultimate guilt/innocence question. The wording of his post might cause some people to believe that he was making a "threat". For example, I could "threaten" you by saying the exact opposite of something and it wouldn't be a defense for me to say that my words did not technically constitute a threat.
example: hey killer_kyle, I swear I'm NOT going to rub cat poo on your front door tonight. Really. I won't. Muah ha ha. Have a good night! |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:08 PM Author: aggressive twinkling uncleanness Just don't light it on fire . . . Old man killer_kyle hates shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016690) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 2:24 PM Author: supple bearded faggotry sneaky criminal you are not getting the full story. in the thread title, he said that he decided not to do it. then in the post he said that he was all set for "bloody wednesday" but the sun was shining and the birds were singing. then he went on to say "maybe tomorrow, there's rain in the forcast"
so it sounds creepy at best, but after the VA tech thing (which he specifically referenced) it could be taken as a threat.
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:28 PM Author: odious magical gay wizard degenerate Interestingly, rumor is Trustafarian was expelled not over the threat, but because after reading this board the Dean learned that admissions let him slip through with a 164 LSAT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016440) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 12:58 PM Author: concupiscible bossy therapy Fascinating. But doesn't that imply that 2/3 of his classmates should be worried right now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016614) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:36 PM Author: odious magical gay wizard degenerate 164 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016910) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 1:38 PM Author: concupiscible bossy therapy Looks like I am going to Boalt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8016923) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 3:05 PM Author: Indigo Irate Stead Boltzmann Dear Dean Christopher Edley, Jr.:
I think you're a self-righteous piece of garbage and a coward.
Boalt students should rebel. This penalty clearly doesn't meet the crime, and this jackass is ruining someone's career merely for his own benefit. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: Avocado Adventurous Theater Q:
Would any of you people defending autoadmit and trust to the end here actually do so in an argument IRL? it seems to me like all pro-autoadmit arguments would dissolve in then air in an IRL context as people laugh uproariously in your face as you are outed as a messageboard-posting nerd. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 4:13 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship A: I'm a lawyer IRL. I've defended far worse allegations than this and wouldn't hesitate to do so for this chump if I were asked to do so. He will not have trouble finding a lawyer to defend him if he wants one.
Not sure what your point is. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:11 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed Could you rephrase your question in comprehensible English, please? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018386) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:26 PM Author: titillating domesticated blood rage cruise ship i think he's trying to say: would any of you xoxo posers actually out yourselves publicly, tie your RL identity to your moniker on the board, and having associated yourself so clearly with the board then try and defend Trustafarian using the identical arguments you did with your xoxo moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018493) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:46 PM Author: mustard charismatic half-breed If that's the question, then I my answer is no.
I don't want to tie myself to this board publicly because too many people make irrational/prejudiced judgments about people and would lump me in with the "shock value" racist/sexist/etc. nitwits.
I would, however, make the same arguments I've made on this board in public. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 6:02 PM Author: Cerebral Light Theater Stage thats right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018811) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 3:56 PM Author: Cerebral Light Theater Stage way fucked for an obvious joke and nonthreat. "decided NOT to..." but at least boalt is expelling him rather than sucking down 2 more years of his tuition only to see him c&f pwned. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 5:38 PM Author: Sienna coiffed electric furnace well he did say something like, maybe tomorrow or something b/c it would be sunny i think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8018582) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 6:01 PM Author: Cerebral Light Theater Stage school was evacuated the day of the post not the "maybe" day. In any event I cant think of a more plainfully obvious joke than postponing a serial killing because of good weather... Lets try to infuse this conversation with some common sense. the guy made an illtimed joke that people warped their minds around to work themselves into a frenzy. fucking retarded. F. |
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Date: April 29th, 2007 12:27 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle scourge upon the earth tank holy christ xoxo people are stupid...
you're all talking about "denial works best" being what you learned out of all this because you're all too dumb to realize that refraining from engaging in the unnecessary act of stupidity in the first place is a better way to avoid the situation
youre all so fucked in life
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Date: April 29th, 2007 12:33 PM Author: Lascivious sinister dingle berry gaping You fucking chicken-licking, watermelon-eating, basketball-playing, kids-having, welfare-begging, crack-sniffing, cotton-picking, no-jobs-having, ashy-skin big-lips motherfucking nigger. Fuck you fucking nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8029173) |
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Date: April 29th, 2007 12:36 PM Author: Gaped center private investor from this terse screed, I can only conclude that you've never been an adolescent male. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8029178) |
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Date: April 29th, 2007 1:06 PM Author: dashing hateful meetinghouse ape LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#8029260) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 3:41 PM Author: bistre awkward yarmulke rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9438919) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 4:01 PM Author: cocky whorehouse milk so what happened to this guy anyway. he really got the boot for this nonsense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9438982) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 4:05 PM Author: bistre awkward yarmulke rehab He was expelled, yes. Another xoxo martyr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9438997) |
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Date: March 8th, 2008 12:00 PM Author: big mewling roast beef location not according to rumors at boalt, see eg: http://berkeleylaw.blogspot.com/2008/02/freedom-of-speech-or-eharassing.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9448237) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 4:35 PM Author: Swashbuckling disturbing rigor I don't think he's ever been outted. Shocking really... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9439124) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 5:32 PM Author: Pearly stimulating legend He was a myth like Whokebe and Hizzla and he never really existed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9439404) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 6:05 PM Author: burgundy nibblets Ironic that he should have been outed for being a stupid fuck, but not expelled, imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=621206&forum_id=2#9439560) |