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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:25 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting wtf?
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/03/law-firm-rescinds-offer-to-ex-autoadmit-director/ |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:26 AM Author: frozen university !!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054053) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:27 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting when did i miss this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054057) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:28 AM Author: frozen university FIrst I've heard of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054067) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:29 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting ah, it said this was going on a week or so ago, i figured it was mentioned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054072) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:28 AM Author: pea-brained nibblets CWT will take him.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:28 AM Author: Frisky dun house HOLY SHIT LOL! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054064) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:28 AM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford damn.
so we now have seen two law students' professional careers seriously damaged because of xoxo in less than 2 weeks. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:24 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal vivacious range electric furnace because of xoxo? I think you mean because they both exercised poor judgment... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054615) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: heady pearly hissy fit address A This is bullshit. I feel badly for GTO
B Who was the other person? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: sickened cobalt boistinker the hastings scare dude.
i've known about the gto thing for several weeks now (grapevine), but had kept silent. surprised it took this long to get out there. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:29 AM Author: Medicated clown BIG CHANGES!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054070) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:30 AM Author: Frisky dun house 1MILLION80!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054079) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:41 PM Author: bonkers pocket flask ticket booth YeS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054698) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:31 AM Author: Medicated clown time to hire Reputation Defender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054084) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:31 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting that would be awesome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054086) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:40 AM Author: tantric skinny woman location or at least get a shadow interview on good morning america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054141) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:32 AM Author: Light exciting rigor new version That sucks. I feel bad for him. He supported freedom of speech and did end up deleting some stuff, esp t14 contest. ACLU will hire him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054090) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:33 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting i feel bad for him too. it took guts to stand up to all of the complaints and threats he got--not that it seems to have done him any good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054103) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:03 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054262) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:03 PM Author: Frisky dun house titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054263) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:05 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant bullshit first of all, gto had no friends. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:21 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054335) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:15 PM Author: Yapping cream haunted graveyard mental disorder "Dude GTO was not a nice person."
Did GTO die following the news? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:33 AM Author: Ebony Dragon Affirmative Action we've ventured in the realm of the absurd.
This firm has validated its TTT status. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:33 AM Author: wonderful generalized bond “He worked for us last summer. He’s not going to work for us in the fall.”
Damn that's cold. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:35 AM Author: Stimulating pit mother Looks like maybe the sticky wasn't up long enough?
*raises black gloved first in the air* |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 11:35 PM Author: Poppy heaven deer antler LOL
I'm actually kinda disappointed in him. Turns out he worked for a TTT. Fuck, I go to a bottom T1 school and got a better job. Penn pwn3d |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:36 AM Author: Light exciting rigor new version Can he sue? Seems like he's not being hired because he supports free speech outside the workplace. If one could get 67mill for some pants, he could make some money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054113) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:38 AM Author: henna floppy associate Well you have to wonder how many of the left-wing zealots who threatened to get him fired from his legal job actually followed through on that. If some of them made calls, especially if what they said was not true, maybe he'd have a cause of action against them, but tracking them down and finding out what was said is going to be next to impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054132) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:40 AM Author: Light exciting rigor new version Can you sue if someone says they are not going to hire you based on your speech outside of work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054148) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:43 AM Author: Ebony Dragon Affirmative Action no you cant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054174) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:48 AM Author: azure high-end hominid Of course you can sue, but you'll lose unless your employer is the government (and you still might lose). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054200) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:51 AM Author: Saffron Lettuce no. except he was terminated. except that the threshold is that the speech be of public concern, and WGWAG slash some ugly bitch got a 157 on the LSAT slash what's up with black people? decidedly does not qualify. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054214) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:25 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria Really, it wouldn't matter. Some attorney got fired recently for advocating that fair use be expanded. Unfortunately, her firm represented several record labels and she was consequently canned. There's no private right to free speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059909) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:52 AM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant it's NOT HIS speech. I hope they fire the phone company bc it allows ppl to use bad language over its lines. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:05 PM Author: racy iridescent dopamine Exactly! The phone company could monitor the lines (either with people or computers with voice recognition software), so they shouldn't get any break.
They can't plead innocence, either, because everyone knows that lots of horrible things are said over the phone. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 6:01 PM Author: erotic theater persian Why don't you tell the phone company to fire the phone company then you TTT idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055694) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:24 PM Author: henna floppy associate Anybody who owned a bar should not be a lawyer. Not only are horribly crude and hurtful things said at bars, people get drunk there. No lawyer should be associated with drunks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054346) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 6:40 AM Author: electric disrespectful parlor I'm astounded at some people's idiocy in here. Comparing a fucking phone company to this forum? Did the phone company ever place public threats and individuals personal's info that would be available for the entire legal community to read?
What a bunch of morons you guys are. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:26 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria Stupidity and ad hominems. Excellent. No, AC didn't do any of that - other posters did. AC just maintained someone else's moderation policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059919) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:16 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo He has no cause of action. A law firm is entitled to refuse to hire a person associated with negative publicity and/or values inconsistent with the firm's values. For everyone around here trumpeting the cause of "free speech," I suggest you go back to your Con Law books for a refresher on how free speech jurisprudence applies to strictly state action, not to employment law in the private sector. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054578) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:34 PM Author: Boyish olive orchestra pit wagecucks You are thinking entirely in terms of federal constitutional law. There might be a cause of action under the state constitution. Some states, like California, make it very very difficult for a PRIVATE employer to fire someone. Maybe PA is the same. It's worth a look though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054660) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:41 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant offer + acceptance = contract rescinding offer = breach plus gto reasonably relied on offer and did not seek other employment; employment season is over. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:54 PM Author: passionate brethren employment in this country is at will.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:57 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant 1. he wasn't employed. 2. even if he was employed, and even if his employment was at-will, there's still wrongful termination. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:59 PM Author: violet at-the-ready puppy striped hyena and this would be wrongful because? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054783) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:08 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant what do I look like, some littler mendelson opinionista puke? all I know is that "at-will" is not the trump card weezy thinks it is. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 8:49 AM Author: electric disrespectful parlor Author: 45 yo man posturing from Mom\'s basement
"2. even if he was employed, and even if his employment was at-will, there's still wrongful termination.
what do I look like, some littler mendelson opinionista puke?"
You just look like someone who can't back up his own posts, lolz lolz lolz. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:31 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant I may be one of three posters who have ever backed up any of their posts with anything beyond bald assertion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8060712) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:00 PM Author: passionate brethren the fact that he wasn't employed there hurts your argument, no? if he wasn't employed you can't hav ewrongful termination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054786) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:05 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo You are wrong. This isn't the Soviet Union. Private corporations are allowed to hire and fire employees according to their business interests, for any reason that is not expressly prohibited by state and federal law, which in most states includes race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. Some jurisdictions also include sexual orientation. There are also issues pertaining to disabilities, age discrimination, military service, and pregnancy.
None of these issues apply to a person who is fired (or not-hired, or un-hired) because the employer doesn't like his public image or what it learns about his personal non-religion related values. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:11 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant I'm not sure. I just have this gut feeling that you can't fire someone just for exercising their civil rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054827) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:30 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo Have you cross-referenced your gut feelings with the law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055112) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:05 PM Author: brass marvelous coldplay fan lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055902) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:30 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria Your gut feeling is wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059942) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:36 PM Author: Carmine Feces he also wasn't fired, his offer was rescinded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054667) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:52 PM Author: passionate brethren you could've just said there was no state action here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054751) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:52 PM Author: Boyish olive orchestra pit wagecucks it's still state contract law. who knows whether they can rescind an offer, already accepted, on free speech grounds under the state constitution. i doubt it's a clear cut issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054752) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:57 PM Author: passionate brethren seems like a clear cut employment law issue. firms can rescinde student offers based on things like conflicts etc. They can do the same here, likely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054774) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:59 PM Author: Boyish olive orchestra pit wagecucks state action is only a federal constitutional requirement, not necessarily a state requirement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054782) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:02 PM Author: passionate brethren true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054798) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:36 AM Author: Medicated clown GTO and Brittan can start a no-job-offer club (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054114) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:36 AM Author: henna floppy associate Unbelievably lame. I feel bad for him. I feel even worse knowing that Leiter is happy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054117) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:39 AM Author: overrated lavender lodge tattoo TI, OC, TCR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054136) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:41 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone reading party Leiter is probably contacting Bill Powers (former UT law dean and current UT president) right now to arrange another party at University expense.
http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2007/04/30/Opinion/Editorial.The.Party.Powers.Threw.Himself-2887536.shtml |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:42 AM Author: Glittery elastic band institution Leiter and Fertik both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054166) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:37 AM Author: Vibrant site pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054128) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:39 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting maybe aznazn and AK47 could cut down on the spam/racist shit after this? just maybe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054137) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:40 AM Author: henna floppy associate well they seem reasonable enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054149) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:39 AM Author: Medicated clown one good thing is that GTO doesn't have to worry about the character & fitness committee now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054138) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:40 AM Author: Frisky dun house LOLLERPOPS!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054151) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:42 AM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant On April 11, just over a month after the WaPo story ran, DeWitt sent a letter to Ciolli stating that the firm had recently learned of the controversy involving AutoAdmit, in particular its “off-topic” message board, and that “the information we now have raises serious concerns about your joining our firm.”
DeWitt wrote that the content of the messages on the board are “antithetical” to the values of the firm and the “principles of collegiality and respect that members of the legal profession should observe in their dealings with other lawyers.” DeWitt pointed out that in an online letter to another blogger, Ciolli and his partner Jarret Cohen identified themselves as AutoAdmit’s administrators and defended its “free, uninhibited exchange of ideas.”
DeWitt continued: “We expect any lawyer affiliated with our firm, when presented with the kind of language exhibited on the message board, to reject it and to disavow any affiliation with it. You, instead, facilitated the expression and publication of such language. . . . ” He wrote, his resignation from the site was “too late to ameliorate our concerns.” He asked that Ciolli respond in writing.
"the information we have now" "the kind of language exhibited"... Edwards Angell have apparently never heard of Voltaire: Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write. Voltaire, letter to M. le Riche, February 6, 1770 |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:44 AM Author: Medicated clown I sure hope that GTO is receiving counseling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054179) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:21 PM Author: Aphrodisiac jewess area PC run amok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054331) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:21 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo Let the record reflect that Voltaire did not say, "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to earn a salary at my company no matter how much your public image conflicts with our values, our clients' values, and our business interests." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054603) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:28 PM Author: Carmine Feces titmfcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054632) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:45 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant gto's public image: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1368/Mptv/1368/6199_0051.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0069704 at least the popular kids let him hang out with them |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:43 AM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig Un fucking believable. Really sorry GTO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054171) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:44 AM Author: Comical mint idea he suggested degenerate What a TTT firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054176) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:46 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting titcr, what kind of shit firm is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054185) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:44 AM Author: claret sinister psychic I find it hard to believe that the law firm was unware of xoxohth controversy before they hired GTO. Gee, I wonder what changed their stance...
What's the over/under on how many emails and phone calls they got regarding GTO ove the past few weeks? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:46 AM Author: frozen university Especially considering he said it was on his resume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054188) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:45 AM Author: Light exciting rigor new version I've never heard of this firm, are they good? Isn't GTO doing well at Penn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054183) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:47 AM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting xoxohth.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054190) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:48 AM Author: aquamarine indecent dingle berry turdskin This is a grave injustice. It once again affirms that law firms collectively lack any sense of decency and honor. They view associates as nothing more than expendable commodities.
I hope Anthony ultimately snatches victory from the jaws of defeat.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:48 AM Author: maize aromatic alpha this dewitt fag went to lsu law. what a ttt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054196) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:48 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone reading party What will this do to Penn's 100% employment rate?
Actually, I have a feeling that GTO will come out ahead in the end. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:55 AM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant hopefully he will find a firm not afraid to be associated with controversy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054236) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:59 AM Author: Frisky dun house maybe this one will take him http://anonymouslawfirm.com/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054251) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:56 PM Author: Transparent odious old irish cottage box office wtf, most of the lawyers there came from T14s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054766) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:49 PM Author: passionate brethren and what firm would that be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054451) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:52 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant maybe the civil rights firm heide iravani is working for this summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054474) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:59 PM Author: violet at-the-ready puppy striped hyena Yes. Name a large law firm that wants to have clients question them about a new associate and his close association with a board known for racist and anti-semitic rhetoric?
It's not PC bullshit - it's a free market. GTO chose to make a stand, and that's his call, but in doing so he chose to lessen his value in the BIGLAW marketplace. He may well have raised it in some other areas, but not in the arena of large law firms. People who can't see otherwise need to get out in the real business world for a while. I can't believe this really surprises anyone.
Edit: and just to clarify, I think he might be a nice addition for a high profile litigation boutique looking to make a bit of a splash around defense of freedom of speech, but not for the risk averse large law firm - at least not at this point. Also, I don't think this should be a C&F ding since I don't recall GTO making any inflammatory post himself that I can recall. I'm sure they will make him squirm, but I think he should be able to acquit himself there. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:07 PM Author: passionate brethren when i heard osme of the concerns from upenn students themselves, i knew it was serious.
this does not surprise me at all |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:07 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location i hope he prevails, but the lil' shaver sounds pretty down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054279) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:48 AM Author: doobsian cordovan background story mood that firm clearly hates America and freedom. the senior partners probably engage in daily circle jerks to Osama Bin Laden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054204) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:50 AM Author: salmon gaping I wonder if the guy quoted in the article speaks with a really thick cajun accent.
In any case, condolences, sorry to hear. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:54 AM Author: Medicated clown if your career is in the shithole, then it is time to move to Kentucky....who needs to pass the bar exam?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054229) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:54 AM Author: white hospital sandwich Anyone else disappointed that the story didn't end with Fresh Prince lyrics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054230) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:56 AM Author: Medicated clown EVERYBODY DANCE NOW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054243) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 11:57 AM Author: fishy base sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054245) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:00 PM Author: salmon gaping I'm a big GTO supporter. I think he's done a lot of work for the site, and I think it's unfair how much flak he's caught over the various xoxo fiascos.
That said, I'm not really sure it's bullshit from the firm's perspective. First years are basically fungible units. Fair or not, GTO's name HAS been linked to controversy, that's undeniable. Better for the firm to avoid an associate whose name could be leveraged by shitheels like Leiter and Fertik to piss off firm clients. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:05 PM Author: white hospital sandwich Yeah On a serious note, he is pretty screwed. Once one firm has published their disdain for GTO, other firms will not want to pick up the scraps. It would be like "endorsing" the hate speech (though never made by him). And we all know how firms (like all businesses) freak out over their image and will never want to do anything to raise eyebrows. I hope it all works out for you GTO, I know you are reading this. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:05 PM Author: chrome menage pervert Nobody to blame for this other than Paulie Walnuts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054266) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:07 PM Author: chrome menage pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054280) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:12 PM Author: Vibrant site hear hear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054293) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:13 PM Author: chrome menage pervert Firms don't want to deal with this shit, and they shouldn't have to. This was a perfectly defensible move.
I'm really starting to think he could get dinged from the bar. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:30 PM Author: Grizzly Soul-stirring Piazza Depressive that would be a fucking travesty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054880) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:13 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location i wonder how the correspondence between gto and the firm got out?
and the fact that he offered to delay his start for a year would indicate that he doesn't have many other options right now.
edit: well, at least the reply function is still fucked up. it's almost reassuring. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:17 PM Author: Abnormal weed whacker factory reset button How could he have other options, it's May of 3L year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054315) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:19 PM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig thats right. i appreciate the hilarious attempt to allow him to redeem himself, considering he did so fairly adequately, but their response was already going to be "you failed to address my concerns" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054320) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:31 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo I found that quite interesting also. I highly doubt that they were insincere in giving him one last chance, however. My read on the blog article about this is that GTO was reluctant to condemn the many negative things associated with xoxo that the firm was concerned about. He failed to say, "I think the treatment of Iravani was unfair and wrong. I think the racist and sexist remarks on the board are deplorable and disgusting." and he failed to say (because he could not credibly say), "I did everything I could to prevent these kinds of communications from being published and causing people harm."
This is not about "free speech" and frankly the "free speech" whiners on this board are pretty irritating to me--a strong advocate of the First Amendment. If you want to say whatever you want to say (or be responsible for maintaining a message board where everyone says whatever they want to say), by all means do so... just don't do it while simultaneously feeling entitlement to a six figured salary with a major corporation that functions in the business world. No one is entitled to jack shit in the business world. You earn it by playing the rules. And if you don't want to play by the rules, find another sandbox. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:35 PM Author: 180 jet masturbator I actually did say all of the above in my letter, minus mentioning Heide Iravani by name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054665) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:51 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin Oh shit, hey dude.
Fucking sucks to hear about all this, now will you finally out PW/Pensive/Azn for all this shit? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:54 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant why does blue smoke have such a hard-on for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054761) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:16 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour I just don't think he's the innocent victim people are making him out to be. He's let a lot of very disgusting things go on unchecked on this site, and his "free speech" argument doesn't cut it, given the threads he's been willing to remove in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054839) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:38 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo For what it's worth, I hope you find gainful employment elsewhere in the very near future, and I'm sure you will. A man's livelihood is no joking matter when it comes down to it.
What I simply disagree with is this absurd notion by some (though not you, from what I've read so far) that something "illegal" happened, because some nebulous "right to free speech" was supposedly violated.
In any event I'm sure you will land on your feet. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:44 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo There's no mention of such condemnation in the WSJ post. If anything the WSJ says you "played down [your] ability to control content on the site". This tells me that the WSJ reporter also saw an inadequate degree of condemnation for offensive communications.
Was the WSJ reporting of your story unfair or inaccurate?
===== Ciolli, in a letter dated April 16, recounted the history of AutoAdmit and his joining as education director to “develop educational content and publications” for the site, including a working paper on which law schools place the most graduates at elite law firms, well after the site was founded in 2004. He played down his ability to control content on the site. “While I was free to give input and act in an advisory manner–which I often did, with mixed results–Mr. [Jarret] Cohen always had final say over all rules and policies related to the message board,” and that Cohen “rarely granted” his requests to remove offensive material.
Ciolli added that he was “still in the process of assessing all the lessons to be learned from this incident,” including “the importance of good judgment and proceeding with caution,” values he would appreciate “to a greater extent than a typical first year associate.” He suggested deferring his start date at the firm by a year to “allow me time to develop a series of positive contributions to the legal community that would go a long way toward strengthening my reputation and allaying your concerns.”
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 4:03 PM Author: 180 jet masturbator It's hard to be accurate when you try to sum up a two and a half page letter with excerpts from four random sentences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055260) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 4:09 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo Well that's why I asked. If there's a part of the story the WSJ isn't reporting I'm sure people would want to know. So far I've seen no quotes from your letter regarding condemnation of the offensive speech. You don't have to provide any if you don't want to, that's your right, but without such information people will naturally reach their conclusions based on the information they do have.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:05 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting I agree.
I really hope that this site will be moderated because of this. This site can still be an entertaining and informative place without ruining innocent people's lives--whether they made it worse after the fact or not. Also, the racist shit has to go, it's such a drain on the board. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:12 PM Author: Medicated clown shut up you fucking gook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054297) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:14 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting thanks for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054304) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:15 PM Author: Medicated clown me so horny me love you long time |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:20 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant Moderation just stimulates ppl to be more and more outrageous. Asshole posters with nothing to do could keep a flotilla of mods perpetually busy. The only cure is self-regulation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054329) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:24 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting the board should IP ban anyone as soon as they drop the n-bomb, wgwag, etc
if they come back on a proxie, do it again; they'll get bored and stop eventually |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:31 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location "they'll get bored and stop eventually" i don't know if this logic applies to aznazn and the racist trolls here. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:32 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting i just dont see how it would hurt to give 5 respectable posters the ability to IP ban people. Even if they came back, it would still be better than what we have now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054381) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:40 PM Author: maize aromatic alpha you obviously haven't been a member of a forum where this is done. banning people just further infuriates them. they don't get bored and stop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054406) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:48 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting somethingawful forums do this, they dont have the type of spam xo does despite their incredible popularity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054444) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:49 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant look at madame cunt's insane persistence after she was banned for outting sugary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054454) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:55 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting if you dont have the resources to get rid of spam, maybe you shouldn't be running the board at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054488) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:16 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria Or maybe if you don't have the ability to ignore racist threads then that's your problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8060626) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:12 PM Author: passionate brethren and yet other boards don't have this problem. PR sure didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054557) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:15 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting titcr, but, to be fairn, the setup of xoxo makes it more conducive to flaming/trolling than other segmented, threaded message boards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054573) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:17 PM Author: passionate brethren i'd like to know how (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054585) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:21 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting like i said below, it rewards trolls...just think about it
in another message board--for shits and giggles, let's say 2+2--there are so many subforums that when you post a racist, shock post most people on the board wont see it. On xo, everything is on one page, so you get maximum pwnage per shock post. With everything mixed--and don't get me wrong, i like the idea--the site can quickly become a cesspool where important posts are quickly lost |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:27 PM Author: passionate brethren ok, i see what you're saying now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054625) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:55 PM Author: black son of senegal banning madame cunt is about the only thing GTO's been associated with that I would say deserves a retro-ding. And maybe killing the T14 girls' contest. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:00 PM Author: Medicated clown maybe Rach could put up a paypal donation jar on xoxo so we can give GTO a few dollars to get by on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054256) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:07 PM Author: Frisky dun house Do you think he sold the SS Big Changes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054277) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:09 PM Author: Medicated clown that fucker sank like a rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054284) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 1:53 AM Author: bonkers pocket flask ticket booth That is NOT true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8057802) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:00 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin This is so fucked up...i thought it had to be a joke as I read it, but that just blows.
=( sorry GTO. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:02 PM Author: claret sinister psychic I hope all you imbeciles that attacked GTO mercilessly for weeks on end (google ads, mods, etc) feel like shit.
Dude put his balls on the line for you, stood up for free speech here at every opportunity, and gets canned. you bastards owe him an apology |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:06 PM Author: frozen university Lets not go too far here. Much of what he did was for his own benefit, and when push came to shove and his ass was on the line, he quit and actually turned against the board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054271) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:14 PM Author: salmon gaping I think to be fair, he was in a pretty shitty situation, especially for a 2L. Probably didn't anticipate getting into this kind of mess just by moderating a board, and wound up getting in over his head. I think some of the policies were poorly thought out and there was a good deal of inconsistency, but he also put a lot of work into the place and I think his motivations were in the right place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054305) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:19 PM Author: frozen university I dont mean to totally demean what he did for the site, and I am on his side with the whole lack of censorship thing. But he played martyr way too much, considering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054324) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:20 PM Author: claret sinister psychic Agreed, he played the 'woe is me' card one too many times, but considering what just happened... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054330) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:06 PM Author: Frisky dun house Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:03 PM Author: 111
He didn't support free speech. He deleted stuff whenever his friends wanted him to, but turned a blind eye in other situations. He just used this board as his personal playground. I don't see how he thought he could avoid the consequences forever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054262)
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:08 PM Author: frozen university Thats rambling nonsense from a bitter shit-stirrer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054281) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:10 PM Author: Vibrant site No, no, he claimed only Rach decided the free speech policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054286) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:24 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054347) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:07 PM Author: cocky ruddy whorehouse prole more feces? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054275) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:07 PM Author: Vibrant site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054276) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:12 PM Author: Very tactful diverse roast beef what was the point of the letter? seems like they were planning on DINGing GTO regardless of what he responded with. utterly TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054295) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:15 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant the illusion of due process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054310) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:17 PM Author: claret sinister psychic I thought the same thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054316) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:20 PM Author: Very tactful diverse roast beef like mother like son? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054328) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:22 PM Author: claret sinister psychic *hugz* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054340) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:57 PM Author: black son of senegal good point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056061) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:16 PM Author: Bearded hairy legs keepsake machete why did he offer to defer his employment a year? that seems stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054313) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:17 PM Author: Medicated clown 'cuz GTO was going to put up another STICKY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054314) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:19 PM Author: Abnormal weed whacker factory reset button Because he wants biglaw ?
Becuase he doesn't want to have to tell people that he lost his offer? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:22 PM Author: Bearded hairy legs keepsake machete i guess that kinda makes sense, but it also seems like it's just conceding that he's fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054338) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:22 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant He prolly figured the controversy would blow over in a year. a lot of ppl defer their starts to clerk, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054339) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:23 PM Author: Bearded hairy legs keepsake machete but if he isn't clerking wtf was he gonna do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054343) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:28 PM Author: Abnormal weed whacker factory reset button I think the implication is that he would try to clerk, or do something for a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054357) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 4:47 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo i had assumed he intended the year off to be spend on proving that he could restore any disrepute associated with his name, through pro bono activities, community involvement, whatever.
i don't think it was a bad plan or bad effort at all. that part of his response was fine. i continue to believe (until he shows us otherwise) that the key flaw with his letter was an inadequate response to the offensive posts themselves. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:22 PM Author: Very tactful diverse roast beef time to start trolling for an ibanking offer GTO. they don't care about controversy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054341) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:28 PM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford Time for GTO to out pauliewalnuts and pwn the fuck out of him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054360) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:30 PM Author: claret sinister psychic GTO should come back, out like 30 people with all the info he's amassed, and spam the board with threads whose title only reads "PWNED" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054370) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:36 PM Author: Medicated clown you better hope that he doesn't call up your bishop or the relief society president (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054392) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:42 PM Author: Very tactful diverse roast beef or mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054412) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:36 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin TITMFCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054391) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:35 PM Author: self-centered adventurous liquid oxygen brunch He got what he deserved. I wouldn't want to work with someone who tacitly endorsed the racist, sexist, and homophobic remarks on this board. I don’t know how he thought he was going to be able to keep up the whole “its free speech” argument forever. Ultimately you are responsible both for what you say and what you allow by your non-action. Once he supposedly realized that Cohen would not be willing to take down completely ridiculous stuff, he should have resigned. (If in fact he was actually concerned about the things being posted. It looks like he wasn’t.) That he was unwillingly to resign a long time ago speaks volumes about his character and his lack of judgment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054389) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:37 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin BY POSTING HERE YOU TACITLY ENDORSE THE RACIST SEXIST AND HOMOPHOBIC REMARKS ON THIS BOARD YOU FUCKING RETARD.
DIE PLEASE. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:55 PM Author: azure high-end hominid "Ultimately you are responsible both for what you say and what you allow by your non-action."
So you admit that you are responsible for everything on this board? I mean, youre non-action has allowed it to continue. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:39 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant Subject: I like your logic. Good thing gto wasn't a criminal defense attorney. I couldn't put up with anyone who tacitly endorsed murder, rape, and child molestation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054402) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:37 PM Author: passionate brethren is anyone realllly surprised by this?
i'm not. firms don't give care about 1st years. they don't. GTO was the face of this site, it got bad exposure and as a result so did he. EA, just like any other law firm dismissed an associate they didn't care about. AND they had a reason. i'm not surprised. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:38 PM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford it's not surprising, but it is still shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054401) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:39 PM Author: Glittery elastic band institution titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054404) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:46 PM Author: passionate brethren but GTO is a smart guy, he knew what the consequences could be. i dont get why he decided to stay on board and not leave earlier. he saw what a racist/homophobic/antisemtic POS this board was becoming.
I loved this baord. It's gotten me from the lsat to graduation from LS with tremendous amounts of info. but in the last year or so, it's gone downhill. People that complained were right. there was an opportunity to do something and he didn't do it.
There are other board's on the internet that have moderation that are just as good as this board was. i'm not sure what the point of keeping this board unmoderated this long was. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:55 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location it was kind of odd that he tried to legitimize the board as the "cheif education director" by linking his studies, other ventures (summerassociate, etc.), and to some extent his professional reputation to the board and yet he refused to do anything to clean it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054489) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:59 PM Author: passionate brethren EXACTLY my point. he could have done so much to clean this board up and to really help make it what it was originally designed for. he chose not to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054503) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:01 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting this board had so much potential (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054508) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:04 PM Author: passionate brethren it did. eliminate the racist and other shit...this board could've been the ultimate site for law school information. there's a huge market for this type of info (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054521) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:06 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting it's the layout of this site that is amazing...having off-topic combined with law school stuff was a great idea. The problem is, with all of the traffic always looking at the same page, it made it a troll's paradise. If they had just used some sort of moderation policy, this site could still be an entertaining site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054526) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:09 PM Author: passionate brethren the old PR site was entertaining, when it had moderation. this site could've too.
people had fun fucking with jeff adams.
this site should be closed down with another to takes its place with different rules etc. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:11 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting bigchangesboard.com
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:13 PM Author: passionate brethren that site had no strategy but to try to steal people from here. that's all it was created for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054564) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:14 PM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford the shitty thing is that the vast majority of the offensive shit that gets posted here is the work of a literal handful of trolls. how hard would it be to ban their accounts and their IPs. they also should require a legit e-mail address to register a new account, by forcing you to respond to a verification e-mail like every other internet forum requires. these are minor steps which could have reduced 95% of the racist and defamatory shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054566) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:16 PM Author: passionate brethren good point. or gto could've implemented a policy like the old PR had: say some ignorant shit, you're banned and you can email the director asking to get un IP banned and your old moniker back.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:17 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting proxies are the only thing that fuck this up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054582) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:01 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria This board was created for unmoderated content. If you want strictly on-topic, stay in the on-topic section. There are tons of other boards that satisfy the desire for politically correct, moderated discussion.
What made the original PR great was great posters, many of which moved on after PR's demise. It wasn't the moderation. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 8:03 PM Author: Chartreuse Razzle Idiot and moderation obviously didn't hurt the original PR board either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8061720) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 8:08 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant PR is a great board. have you checked it out lately? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8061740) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:16 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting yes, the legit e-mail address would be a big addition. It would, at the very minimum, slow the trolls down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054580) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:19 PM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford exactly. you may not be able to stop them all, but you can increase their costs by forcing them to register new fake e-mail addresses every time they want to flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054596) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:54 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting "i'm not sure what the point of keeping this board unmoderated this long was."
http://m-w.com/dictionary/stubborn |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:02 PM Author: passionate brethren but look where it got him. i'm not sure what you do after something like thi happens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054511) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:59 PM Author: Effete volcanic crater halford i agree with all of this. it's hard to see how GTO didn't see this as a possible result of a no-moderation policy. it's been clear for quite some time that limited moderation was needed, and the T14 fiasco and media shitstorm that followed it made that fact crystal clear. it's unfortunate. the no-moderation policy has not only led to actual IRL harm, but has also ruined much of this board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054505) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:34 PM Author: Carmine Feces titcr. look what happened to lat. his site was completely inoffensive.
GTO's insistence that he never had any control is consistently infuriating to me, and absurd to any thinking person. his inability to own up to his responsibilities is worse than anything else. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:40 PM Author: frozen university You mean GTO lost his job at Edwards, Angell, Palmer & Dodge, who knowingly employs murderer Ki O? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054409) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:48 PM Author: passionate brethren GTO is fucked. i'm not sure how else to put it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054447) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:59 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin PEnn doesnt like competition in the realm of making their school look bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054504) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:48 PM Author: self-absorbed vermilion school jap I feel bad for GTO but the kind of stuff he condoned and facilitated here is just not acceptable in civilized society. It's one thing to act as a conduit for free speech where people can spam the word 'nigger' all day long. As reprehensible as that is, at least you can give bullshit justifications about free speech. but when people's lives/job prospects/etc. are being personally effected and threats of rape and whatnot are being made.... it's over.
BTW, there is no doubt that reputation defender got in touch with GTO's firm and told them that they would raise a stink if the firm didn't terminate GTO. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:56 PM Author: maize aromatic alpha when a liberal prefaces a statement with "free speech has limits" it usually means he doesn't believe in free speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054767) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:44 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054933) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 6:44 PM Author: Mind-boggling cerise stead ...Or that they covered libel and slander during 1L. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055851) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:12 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo titcr
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:48 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant no, ppl who covered libel and slander during 1L would know that the elements of defamation were missing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8060801) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:51 PM Author: passionate brethren dude, free speech has its' limits. it's obvious what this board has become.
i saw it coming and am not surprised about what happened to GTO. i know kids at penn who say these same things and have the same concerns. they say it gives their school a bad name. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:45 PM Author: big nursing home Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:51 PM Author: Weezylilbaby
dude, free speech has its' limits. it's obvious what this board has become.
i saw it coming and am not surprised about what happened to GTO. i know kids at penn who say these same things and have the same concerns. they say it gives their school a bad name. _____________________________________________________________ It's no surprise that the author of this idiotic post doesn't know how to punctuate "its."
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:49 PM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo wow good one. did you notice how he didnt use capital letters in appropriate places also? what a maroon.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:50 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo why did he keep posting here after he resigned?
That couldn't have helped things. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:59 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo so his resignation was pointless.
Either he stop affiliating himself with the board, or continues to do so. But he didn't take a stand either way.
edit: that response was meant for Weezy. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:02 PM Author: Bearded arousing philosopher-king famous landscape painting he should have been fired for his inability for fix the board bug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054515) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:54 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant we all feel the need to explain ourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054477) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:56 PM Author: passionate brethren it didn't matter. once the firm wrote him, it was over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054493) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:02 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location i don't think it made a difference at that point. the damage was done.
how was gto outted in the first place? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:04 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo but see my above post.
He should have made a decision either way regarding his affiliation to the site. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:13 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location he was already the public face of the site even before the wapo article, even more than rach's since gto is actually in law school. obviously resigning didn't save his ass, and it's not like EA was monitoring the site to see if he posted again.
when was outted he made the decision to associate his name with the site, and backpedaling now that the shit has hit the fan isn't going to change that. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:15 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo yeah that's my point. He shouldn't have bothered resigning - it was pointless, and now he just seems wishy washy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054574) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:29 PM Author: passionate brethren but more importantly, it doesn't matter now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054638) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:07 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo first of all dumbfuck it's "important," not "importantly," and if it doesn't matter now, what's the point of this thread? To discuss what already happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055912) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:28 AM Author: passionate brethren i thought we were cool? where in that post was i rude to you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058592) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:26 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo fine fine, we're cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8062329) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:52 PM Author: clear insane international law enforcement agency Bad publicity don't cost nothing
Digg it |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:02 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054513) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 12:55 PM Author: Vibrant site This thread should be stickied. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054487) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:03 PM Author: nudist rusted antidepressant drug bbw Sounds to me like he didn't kiss enough ass in his response. There's a chance he could have kept the job if he stopped posting and renounced the board.
Instead, he resigned from some fictional position, and continued to defend his actions (and thus the board) here and elsewhere. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:05 PM Author: milky razzle-dazzle rigpig business firm If the ACLU hires him, I'm gonna be really pissed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054525) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:07 PM Author: mustard station private investor The fucking retard should have kept his online name unassociated with his real name. That's what he gets for having the gall to call himself an "Education Director" for a message board deluged with WGWAG and rasquach threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054531) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:06 PM Author: lascivious yellow friendly grandma that's CHIEF education director to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055908) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:09 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour "While I was free to give input and act in an advisory manner–which I often did, with mixed results–Mr. [Jarret] Cohen always had final say over all rules and policies related to the message board,” and that Cohen “rarely granted” his requests to remove offensive material."
This part is BS. I've seen GTO immediately remove threads, without consulting rachmiel. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:38 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location and he's posted, threatened to post, and mocked in various posts the emails from people requesting threads be removed. rach probably agreed to take the heat for him, but no one's buying it. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:41 PM Author: sickened cobalt boistinker if this is bluesmoke (i suspect it is) plz go meet up with hizzla and eat a truck, ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055167) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:53 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour why?B I'm not lying. He shouldn't try to blame it all on rach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055220) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:14 PM Author: Ruby Crackhouse Scourge Upon The Earth I find it surprising that some of you are surprised and/or angry about this.
Its not about freedom of speech its just business. GTO brings bad publicity to the firm, plus his association with xoxo is a liability to the firm in dealing with clients. The firm, imho, from a business perspective did the right thing. XOXO is not untouchable, and your actions on here will bite you in the ass later.
I sincerely hope people like Paulie Walnuts and AznAzn get outted and have their lives fucked.
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:19 PM Author: concupiscible bossy people who are hurt water buffalo everyone's secretly thinking about how their own lives would be fucked if they're outted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054593) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:39 PM Author: Appetizing rough-skinned church filthpig No, your life would be fucked, not the majority of ours. I'd be worried too if I were you: If I'd become such a psychopath that I began posting every minute detail of my every day on a message board for law students, possibly with the primary purpose of being an annoying spammer. I'd fire you in a second if I knew who you were, you psychotic, annoying fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054689) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:31 PM Author: canary garrison the bitch has a point, though. i'm sure not one person is shaking in his/her boots at the thought of being outted. oh wait, no. stfu moron. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055975) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:26 PM Author: Yapping cream haunted graveyard mental disorder If Reputation Defender is behing this, tortious interference with contract? I guess no contract though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054621) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:33 PM Author: Provocative Gas Station What a crock of shit.
And BTW - weezy is wrong - firms do care about their associates - they spend a lot of time and money on them - they dont get rid of people rightly.
that said it was a big mistake and they are going to have to deal with a minor shitstorm now. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:51 PM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig they were going to have to deal with a minor shitstorm either way. who knows about heide, but leiter certainly seems to have an axe to publicly grind. better for EA to do what they said gto should have--publicly distance itself from the controversy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054742) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:34 PM Author: fragrant out-of-control abode jew His legal career is over. With the termination from his employment, which he will have to disclose, all of this is now front and center before the C&F committees.
He wont pass anytime soon; not to mention with the number of enemies he has. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:36 PM Author: Provocative Gas Station STFU Fertik.
losing your job because your employer is a chickenshit douche does not mean you are morally unfit to be a lawyer.
GTO hasn't done anything wrong, unlike the drug abusing murderers still employed at Edwards Angell. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:38 PM Author: fragrant out-of-control abode jew I'm not "Fertik"
I'm sure C&F will be itching to pass (and of course, its his burden to meet) a guy who was fired from a job for this type of thing. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:51 PM Author: frozen university I bet you have thorough knowledge on what the C&F committe is itching to do but you cant divulge any secrets, right?
I'm sure this is the worst thing anyone has ever done and passed, too, right? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:57 PM Author: fragrant out-of-control abode jew I dont see why you're all upset about it.
He'll have a tough time passing. Its just a fact. What others have done doesnt matter. They're attorneys now. GTO isnt. Seems like a nice enough guy, but he's going to have issues. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 8:24 AM Author: Autistic Exhilarant Temple Toilet Seat I'm pretty sure he'll be fine. You have to do really awful things not to pass C&F. I don't think running an unmoderated discussion forum with unsavory language qualifies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058534) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:54 PM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig lets get real about who is going to serve on C&f committees--its going to people who are indignant about racist language, and its going to be people who at least have to pretend to be indignant about it when others on the committee are. id pass this dude and trustafarian too, but i wouldnt bet on them making it. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:01 PM Author: wonderful generalized bond I doubt C&F will be a problem. He hasn't done anything particularly egregious, particularly by C&F standards. People routinely get admitted with DUIs or felony arrests, I don't see how this is any worse or more immoral.
The bigger issue is whether any private firm will be willing to take a flier on GTO at this point -- with so many potential attorneys graduating from top schools every year, I'm not sure I see the incentive to hire someone with no experience and such a controversial reputation. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:10 PM Author: tantric skinny woman location there were rumors that people at yale and elsewhere were putting together a dossier to submit to c&f committees on gto. i don't know what kind of an effect that might have, but i'm sure gto will be portrayed in the worst light possible. can he spend a year rehabbing his image and try hired with another associate class somewhere else? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:36 PM Author: wonderful generalized bond wow, that's really fucked up. why should they go after him? while i agree that they're innocent victims, it's not GTO's fault that they were dragged through the mud. I dare say that they themselves are more to blame, as no one posted any facts about them that they had not already made available on the web.
and the fact is, this will probably blow over, and GTO will probably be able to get hired with another associate class at some point. but who knows long that will take? at least for the immediate future it's gotta be pretty rough for him.
i don't know how i could focus on the bar exam with these troubles surrounding me. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:51 PM Author: Carmine Feces they went after him because they have leverage over him (in the form of risk-averse employers and the bar), and he could have removed the offensive posts if he wanted to. maybe he didn't have some mythical "authority," but it's not like rachmiel wouldn't listen if he said, "take down this post or i'll never be able to get a job."
clearly they'd go after rachmiel too, if they could. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:54 PM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig Ive been saying it the whole time but GTO handled himself like a stubborn baby during this process. All this bullshit about "we were going to remove the posts until she hired RepDef. Now we want a formal apology first" was pure idiocy at its finest. I dont think he deserves what he got but i think he could have done a fuckton better at avoiding it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054974) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:25 PM Author: bateful kitty I agree with all of this, except the part about GTO not deserving what he got.
Supernanny herself couldn't have come up with a more just and appropriate consequence. This board was publicly humiliating people in the legal community, and he chose not to stop it. Now he's being publicly humiliated in the legal community. He said that when you put your info out there on the web, it's your own fault if people use it to hurt you. Now people are using the info he put on the web to hurt him, so according to him, that's his own fault.
Sounds like he's getting back exactly what he gave. I don't know why so many posters pity him for this. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 12:48 AM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant it's only xoxo -- a place to blow off steam -- not irl weird to see it have irl consequences. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:35 PM Author: bonkers pocket flask ticket booth Who is going to care for me now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054663) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:36 PM Author: trip state A debt collection agency. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054673) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:46 PM Author: bonkers pocket flask ticket booth Are they as gentle as Tony C. is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054718) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:49 PM Author: trip state They've been known to dismantle boats like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054732) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:54 PM Author: bonkers pocket flask ticket booth *knot forms in hull*
*GULP!*
Even pleasant easy-to-operate boats? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:35 PM Author: trip state Does he have students loans to repay?
They wouldn't repossess the S.S. Big Changes, would they? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:01 PM Author: overrated lavender lodge tattoo I think LULZ are legal tender for the purposes of student loan repayment.
At least, I'm operating under that assumption. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:52 PM Author: Vibrant site http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/05/autoadmit_leads_to_autorescind.php (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054749) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:55 PM Author: Histrionic becky Lest we not forget the lives GTO stood by and watched get ruined. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054763) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 1:59 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant List? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054779) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:02 PM Author: hyperventilating tripping sound barrier PNNC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054792) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:02 PM Author: anal bat-shit-crazy french chef toaster At least GTO can just go straight to banking now. No one here actually wants to be a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054796) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 7:36 AM Author: vigorous kitchen faggotry tioctcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058475) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:09 PM Author: Supple shrine wgwag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054818) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:10 PM Author: glassy hairraiser goal in life A few thoughts:
He needs to play the victim thing up even more. He is already a batshit crazy conservative, so maybe he can get a staff job at somewhere such as the Heritage Foundation or the Federalist Society.
Second, he needed to offer to shut down the board immediately in response to the letter (regardless of whether he could have).
Third, maybe he can write a book. "How liberals and political correctness ruined my life." Do the talkshow circuit, collect cash. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:25 PM Author: Carmine Feces "Third, maybe he can write a book. 'How liberals and political correctness ruined my life.' Do the talkshow circuit, collect cash."
titcr. (though i'm not sure if he's telegenic enough.) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:31 PM Author: glassy hairraiser goal in life He probably had trial ad or moot court. That puts him way ahead of most people on TV. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054888) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:13 PM Author: Carmine Feces GTO, do you have any regrets? if so, what are they? do you realize that you would've ended up just fine if you'd stopped the character assassination/googlebombing of people on here? do you recognize that blaming rachmiel for the board administration was/is counterproductive?
the racism, sexism, antisemitism, etc. wouldn't have attracted all this attention if there weren't individuals who felt very wronged by the board. maybe there was no libel; maybe these people brought it on themselves by putting pictures on the internet. but these people were pissed off, got a lot of attention trained on you, and now--let's be frank about it--your legal career is over before it started.
for the first time autoadmit has really upended your life. has this changed your outlook at all? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:16 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin harsh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054838) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:20 PM Author: Carmine Feces i'm not just trying to harsh on him; i'm genuinely curious about what he thinks now. having your job offer revoked very publicly is a come to jesus event and i wanna know how he feels about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054846) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:35 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant you're like the kind of reporter that would ask the wife of anthony raucci, homicide victim of substance abusing Edwards Angell attorney Ki O, "how did you feel when you saw substance abusing Edwards Angell attorney Ki O's 2004 Audi hurtling towards your husband's helpless body? And how did your little son feel when he saw substance abusing Edwards Angell attorney Ki O's 2004 Audi hurtling towards his father's helpless body? Shitty, sad, and scared, that's how. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:35 PM Author: dashing locale queen of the night He got what he deserved. You cannot justify allowing posts to remain about raping other lawyers while still complying with our ethical rules.
NY Ethical Cannon #9 EC 9-6 Every lawyer owes a solemn duty to uphold the integrity and honor of the profession; |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:48 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant link to posts about raping other lawyers? or to any rapes at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054944) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:39 AM Author: peach thriller legend chapel Dude, have you ever READ this board?
Pretending ignorance of posts about rape, when there are entire threads decicated to rape (as "flame" or not), undermines your credibility completely.
Also, in a genius move, some of those rape threads specifically name, in the TITLE, a prominent law student who has her own blog and writes for various internet publications. Hard to keep that under wraps.
Link to an xoxo page WITHOUT a rape thread, please. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:20 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria STFU Jill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059885) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:22 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour This isn't a rape, but weren't people saying that they were stalking the Yale CGWBT and were going to take pics of her at the gym and post them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059894) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:43 PM Author: Zombie-like step-uncle's house gay wizard i just had chipotle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054924) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:50 PM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant Subject: finally a voice of reason with what ingredients? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054952) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:59 PM Author: Zombie-like step-uncle's house gay wizard chicken burrito with pico, hot and corn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054992) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:54 PM Author: Carmine Feces aww c'mon. an "EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!" would've been worth a 180 million right about now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8054972) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 2:56 PM Author: Snowy domesticated codepig A time to dance, a time to mourn A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:09 PM Author: lascivious yellow friendly grandma DUDE! you're not dead/expelled! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055915) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:37 PM Author: Zombie-like step-uncle's house gay wizard hey, old friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056234) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:13 PM Author: lascivious yellow friendly grandma someone suggested that you are trustafarian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8060600) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:35 PM Author: Zombie-like step-uncle's house gay wizard i saw ak47's post saying as much. have there been others?
either way: lol |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 3:56 PM Author: razzmatazz quadroon The idiotic euphemism "Chief Education Officer" probably did more to obscure his limited control over content than to confirm that limited control, which I gather is somewhat true. Live by puffery, die by puffery.
As for the firm, they basically decided they don't like him, which is their entitlement. that same dislike would have been there had the offer not been revoked.
I suspect it might have been different if there weren't contrasts like GTO racing around to delete every Madame Cunt post critical of him, and they turning into a free expression absolutist when there were requests to delete posts lots of people actually cared about.
Much of his current circumstance can be traced back to moments of vivid disngenuousness. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 4:58 PM Author: blue flatulent parlour Right... how can GTO say that his refusal to delete those disgusting threads stemmed from a respect for free speech when he constantly deleted posts by Madame Cunt and Lorelei, deleted threads outting posters he likes, and even deleted totally inoffensive, non-outting threads if someone he liked asked him nicely? I really just don't get why he wanted to leave those threads up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055448) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:14 PM Author: bateful kitty titcr.
IMHO, the firm made the right business decision here. You're judged by the company you condone. |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 5:04 PM Author: opaque charismatic shitlib Sorry man; i mean that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055466) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 6:11 PM Author: contagious indigo indian lodge i feel for you, GTO. very discouraging. i don't agree with everything you've done, but i do support some of it, and right now you have my sympathy. chin up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055729) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:12 PM Author: lascivious yellow friendly grandma WOW WHAT AN ENDORSEMENT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055929) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:24 PM Author: bistre karate http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picaa8.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8055957) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:42 PM Author: Stirring hunting ground incel Maybe instead of going all pseudo-academic on the firm with:
"I'm still in the process of assessing all the lessons to be learned from this incident."
Maybe he should've went with this:
"I'm still learning from this incident."
Just saying... |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 7:53 PM Author: Carmine Feces titcr. GTO was UNECESSARYILYHIFALUTINVERBIAGEPWND. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056046) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 9:00 PM Author: razzmatazz quadroon The Chief Education Officer did always seem to believe he could dress things up by using more, important-sounding words. I'm surprised he didn't work "utilize" in there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056341) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:02 PM Author: black son of senegal I wish GTO's response had been Fuck you. Regards, GTO Instead of the woe(edit) is me and my 3 years of law school... |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:05 PM Author: Slate bull headed black woman indirect expression Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:02 PM Author: sealclubber
I wish GTO's response had been
Fuck you.
Regards, GTO
Instead of the whoa is me and my 3 years of law school...
"woe"? |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:11 PM Author: black son of senegal thanks for saving the hole post, asswhole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056112) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 9:35 PM Author: self-absorbed vermilion school jap has GTO made a public statement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056508) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:07 PM Author: swashbuckling library You people use Free speech as if it is some kind of punch line. Guess what? Free speech only applies to government moderation of speech, not private. GOI. If I were you guys I would calm down and behave better, because people are going down left, right and center for their actions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056097) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 1:31 AM Author: Shivering hell legal warrant so private ppl can deny me my civil rights? isn't that what black people got firehosed to prevent? |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:26 AM Author: fear-inspiring mischievous ceo yeah, comparing GTO to African Americans protesting segregation in the 60s is a pretty good and totally accurate analogy. see also, Holocaust, atrocities against Native Americans, Rwanda, and Darfur.
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:25 PM Author: titillating home voyeur I think GTO is a civil rights leader. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8059911) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:25 PM Author: electric disrespectful parlor Civil rights leader? I couldn't laugh any harder. Someone who deleted threads when his friends asked him to, but kept threads of others who were being threatened with rape, or whose first name and school was linked to profanity and came up first in a google search? You call that a civil rights leader? Make me laugh harder next time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8062321) |
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Date: May 5th, 2007 12:12 AM Author: drunken pink public bath candlestick maker LOL. I laughed so hard that I farted and shat myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8063343) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 2:18 PM Author: bronze school cafeteria AC went down not because of anything he said, but because the firm disliked what *other* people on the board said. It really was guilt by association. If you think that's great, then bully for you. No one is claiming the firm's actions were illegal. Nonetheless, they were completely disgusting.
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:12 PM Author: erotic theater persian No, they really weren't. You have the parties backwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8062214) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 9:13 PM Author: peach thriller legend chapel The job is called "Associate."
And the firm did not to associate themselves with GTO. |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 3:01 PM Author: spectacular dull resort useless brakes So you mean we can't mention Brittan Heller or Heide Iravani anymore?
:'( |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:10 PM Author: amber submissive trailer park *toot toot* :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056106) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:37 PM Author: Galvanic plaza cumskin fitting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056235) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 8:43 PM Author: splenetic senate sweet tailpipe GTO - sorry to hear this. Thanks for your service to the cause of my procrastination over the past two years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056259) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 9:27 PM Author: Curious nowag Hey GTO i really feel bad for you. I came over in the massive PR exodus when they began censoring and changed the format. Even though I usually stick to Fordham threads and wouldnt be moderated anyways the thought of moderation bothered me. Sadly the ideals that this board were founded on lead to abuses and ending up coming back to bite you. I wish you the best of luck in your future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8056484) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:07 AM Author: fuchsia beta cruise ship i'm sur you would be moderated for your comments under your other monikers you bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058187) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 1:51 AM Author: Vengeful Motley Lay This fucked up incident reminds me of a ytmnd kibitzer did a while back: http://gtopwn3d.ytmnd.com/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8057791) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 3:28 AM Author: buck-toothed twinkling uncleanness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tZ4Yf7jDWI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058077) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 4:28 AM Author: Supple shrine sticky request (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8058264) |
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Date: May 4th, 2007 3:21 PM Author: Adulterous khaki bawdyhouse xoxohth, ruining one life at a time...
I don't think anyone can claim they have been richer from experiencing xoxo.
You'll find something, AC. |
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Date: May 5th, 2007 2:32 AM Author: Excitant navy forum headpube GTO made some bad decisions which ultimately caught up to him in the real world. Xoxo is a cesspool where many behave in a manner without regard to consequences whereas in the real world, associating with disreputable entities will have consequences which GTO ultimately found out.
GTO showed very poor judgement and business sense. Attaching his real name to this site was just plain dumb. Maybe he had good intentions in involving himself in the Auto Admit Studies portion of the board but he poorly judged what he was getting involved with in an overall sense. He should have realized he was attaching his name & reputation to the website as a WHOLE. Anyone with solid judgement figures this out. He should have realized how outside entities may view his involvement with this site. He should have realized two years ago as a 1L then moved on like many people on this board have once they realized how high the stakes are in terms of what they may lose by staying on this board. GTO played with fire way too long. I feel bad that he lost his job but he put himself in this situation. The real world/business world is a lot less forgiving than xoxo...GTO was made the poster child for how this site can screw up someone's future. It's pretty ironic that for all the nonsense that has transpired here unchecked over the years, it is one of the boards admins that suffered arguably the worst fate of all. |
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Date: May 25th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: self-absorbed vermilion school jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8169866) |
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Date: June 11th, 2007 11:52 PM Author: self-absorbed vermilion school jap who's laughing now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=625707&forum_id=2#8244921) |
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